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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very Clean!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Vjb77
Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i really like that look blaster...did those lights come with those brackets?
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Mmelvis
Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

outstanding job, they look great
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Blaster_s
Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, I bought the brackets online from a place up north for $20. I just got a City X headlight grill too.

(Message edited by blaster_s on November 18, 2004)
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Blaster_s
Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Naustin
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's my idea for a flat track style exhaust. Would require rearsets.

One-Off Exhaust??

If you build it, I will come!
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Ezblast


Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL - its always something - couldn't he fabricate something off the tubular part of the frame? - surely there are ways around the mounting problem - but you will need a heat shield!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Making a mount would be a nightmare but I'm sure if contacted a Flatrackin' Blaster they could tell you where to get the exhaust.
However if you ran the exhaust under the engine then up to the left or right (to where you show exhaust exiting) you can use a long arm bolted to the engine to support the exhaust (like the Harleys use!).
The other problem with long exhausts on the Blast is by the time it reaches the turn signals it could be flapping around pretty good.
Anyway if I get mine on before you get yours made I'll let you know how it works!
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Ezblast


Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL!
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Evaddave


Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Make an all-in-one:
- airbox eliminator
- carb brace
- exhaust mount!

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Blake
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ralph is right. You might be able to devise some kind of stout bracketry tying in to the tranny or swingarm mounting block. The frame moves relative to the engine/tranny via rubber mounting. Mounting to the frame would demand some kind of flexible joint in the exhaust to accommodate the inevitable relative motion between the two.

I bet it could be done and done well enough to hold up, but it isn't a trivial problem.
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Ralphthe3rd


Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just for inspiration Naustin....
Jen Snyder Racer

Rich Kings Racer

Jay Springsteens Racer
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Naustin
Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If there were say 8 or 10 of us that would buy it, I'm sure we could find someone to build it for us. POOL our POWER. UNITE!!

I've the phone number of that shop in Ohio... Who's in - and who's going to volenteer their bike for the prototype?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If what you want is shown in the above pictures, why not ask the flatrackers for the name of who built theirs and have them make you a copy.
Or have what you want bent on a regular exhaust bender then send that to Ohio for a copy without the restrictive bends.
Or have you looked into the same exhaust for a twin flatracker (or stock HD) and just use one pipe?

That last pictured exhaust looks perfect!
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Blake


Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those flat trackers do NOT utilize a rubber mounted engine. Try again.
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Ezblast


Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The exhausts are off the twin racers, and cam and carb combination that they have used in the XR's as well - from what I gathered from interviewing one of the racing team members when they where in the Cow Palace in SF racing - so the exhaust is out there - just the mounting points will be custom.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Blake, but we have discussed the problems with mounting that system to the Blast frame/engine combination and Naustin wants to try it anyway.
While not impossible, its going to take some probably long support brackets.
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Naustin


Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just don't like the exhaust underneath the motor - I think the bike looks better with out having any baggage down there.

There is a pretty good mounting point right on the case where the stock air box connects I think.

As far at something out back to keep it from moving around too much, why not use a standard exhaust mount, but use some sort uni-planer rubber mount for that as well? Use a slotted hole so it can move what ever way it needs to a half inch or what ever and dampen it with rubber washers such that it doesn't vibrate too much.

I thought about crimp bending the prototype and sending it to Ohio. That's probably the best way to do it. The problem is that the mounts would still need to be fabricated - but that's just a matter of getting in there and MacGuyvering a little bit. Won't be pretty but hopefully it won't be too visable either.

(EDIT) PS - I'm pretty sure that neither of those flat track exhausts would fit the stock Blast. I believe the frame member under the seat would interfere as those appear to be tucked in and too narrow to fit.

(Message edited by naustin on November 22, 2004)
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Ezblast


Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dunno - looks low enough to miss the frame, but unless you have the item to hook up - you really can't tell.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The way the HD exhausts will move (swivel) about in the exhaust port and clamp make them very forgiving when bolting up a custom exhaust.

The rubber exhaust bracket sounds feasible but given the vibrations and the line in which it vibrates,rubber may not be stiff enough (or too stiff) to prevent cracking.
Engine tie bars (frame to exhaust) could be used in some fashion.
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Ezblast


Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was told that all their tech was straight off the XR set up in combinations set up for different tracks - not the same parts obviously - with exhaust, cams, and carb combos for each track type - this is what I was told - take it up with them and then let me know - the guy there was more than willing to try new tech, but was told to use the tried and true stuff off the shelf - he was very emphatic about there being nothing new or specific for the Blast motor developed exclusively for that motor.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ

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Newblaster
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

QUOTE (from Naustin): PS - I'm pretty sure that neither of those flat track exhausts would fit the stock Blast. I believe the frame member under the seat would interfere as those appear to be tucked in and too narrow to fit.

Hey, if the rear subframe is in your way, there's a simple solution for that... lol...

(Message edited by newblaster on November 22, 2004)
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Ezblast


Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just reported what he said to me - did I say I know everything - your doing that as-suming thing again - of course there would be differences, but he did say they where all off their shelf/already fabbed - and I'm pretty sure that it was the relying on old tech only that got some folks retired - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ

(Damn I hate it when he does that - deletes post - lol)

(Message edited by ezblast on November 22, 2004)
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Ezblast


Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)











The Road Warrior continues to evolve!
Scott's bike is going through changes and getting ready for more - as time and money permit - lol -
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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1320


Posted on Sunday, November 28, 2004 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Ezblast...where did you come by the front fairing and lights for your black Blast??? Thanks!!!
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Ezblast


Posted on Sunday, November 28, 2004 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Acberis Diamond in Black fairing and lights modified to withstand the vibration of a single, and the numberplate painted black, front lenses taken off - hella bright practically because each light is aimed at an area of road with minimum overlap - all done with 60 watts total - so far I'm so pleased with the Blacks ease of modifications to work - that I may do something simular with the red,except perhaps I'll use the Chrome eye version which is even brighter - lol - and will keep the red distinctly different from the black.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Blaster_s


Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How easy would it be to shorten the existing rear cowl to the same length as the seat like an XB9s? I like the above pictures of Scott's bike w/ his remounted tail light but I guess it looks un-finished because it is.
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Ezblast


Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah - I think some more trimming of the side and upping the signals would make it more finished - something you only notice when you think your done - lol - the cuttings easy though - the question becomes would a XB seat fit otherwise on a Blast - I really don't know - one way to find out though - ask Darthane or one of the other dual bike owners of Blast and XB's to see if an XB seat would mount - the City-Cross XB seat looks almost identical to a Blast seat, so it does make you wonder.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Newblaster


Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe trim it up more and bring the signals up to the same level as the taillight, but, personally, I like it. Or, maybe it's just that I'm happy about not needing to manually flash my signals now. lol...

Actually, this post is just to see if I have the pic set right for an avatar... lol...

Cool! I do.


(Message edited by newblaster on November 29, 2004)
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Ezblast


Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looking good! Yeah - I looked at those pics all sunday and I was going to call and sugest bringing the signals up to the rear light and trimming the rest - we can do that easy enough when we do the breaks - no biggie - lol - though rarely is one ever done with a project - even when they think they are - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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