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Calebw
| Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - 03:11 pm: |
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Description: 2000 P3 with 4,000 miles on it. This is my first motorcycle so I do not have any good comparison for how it rides, but it seems to be ok. Except for a top speed of about 65 mph. Completely stock except for an EZ adjust idle mixture screw. Once I get about 60 it kinda feels like it is hitting the rev limiter (sort of jumps forward, and then backs off). I can get it up to maybe 70, but it certainly isn't a comfortable cruising experience like I have read about. Looking on this forum it seems like the first (easiest/cheapest) thing to do is adjust (loosen) the primary. If that doesn't work I'll try ignition system next. Problem: I do not have an inch pound torque wrench. When I try to adjust the primary by the sound method (loosen until you hear a box of rocks), I can't hear anything even when I loosen the screw as far out as it will go with the stock muffler on it. If I tighten it down eventually I can hear the bird chirping noise, but no matter how loose I go It doesn't get any sort of change in sound. What should I do? I ordered an inch pound torque wrench, and once it gets here I plan to do the 24 lb, then loosen 14 flats method. Until then is there anything I can do? Will running it really loose do any permanent damage? (Or make me crash, which would also be a problem). Thanks, Caleb |
Gearheaderiko
| Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - 03:23 pm: |
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Yes, too loose can cause damage-damage you can't ignore. Unfortunately you have no way to tell between loose and damaging loose. After you get it properly adjusted, you'll learn the "by ear" method. Not easy to do if you don't have any idea what close even is. It can be done even with a loud exhaust! |
Gearheaderiko
| Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - 03:24 pm: |
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PS welcome! |
Calebw
| Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - 03:56 pm: |
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Thanks. I'll just wait for the wrench to get here before I do anything. I'll keep y'all posted to see if that fixes the problem. (Message edited by Caleb.W on July 16, 2013) |
Ezblast
| Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - 08:53 pm: |
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Go out at least 16 flats - not what the manual recommends - way too tight - lol EZ |
Gearheaderiko
| Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - 07:23 pm: |
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Caleb: While it would be rare, but not unheard of, do you still have the pre-recall rear sprocket? Count the "teeth" on the rear pulley. 80 "teeth" you're good. 73 teeth and it must be changed ASAP! There are only 2 sprockets to choose from, so if you come up close (79, 81, etc.) thats good enough. (72, 74 is bad) |
Calebw
| Posted on Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 05:52 pm: |
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Erik (If that's your real name lol): Just checked the sprocket last night. 80 teeth exactly so I believe I'm good. I decided that I couldn't wait for the wrench so I did a finger tight to where it touches the chain then 16 flats out. I'll readjust once I get the wrench, but I have no idea when it'll get here (I ordered it on amazon). Now it runs fine. I ran 75mph last night and it could have gone faster. Also I did put some Marvel Mystery oil in the gas the other day to help clean out the carb from the previous owner letting it sit. Not sure if that had anything to do with it, but it might have. |
Gearheaderiko
| Posted on Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 06:31 pm: |
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Yes, it is. 80 teeth is good! Thats as fair enough adjustment in the interim. Sounds like it was most or all of your problem. I think 'Seafoam' would be better, but I'm much more inclined to believe it was the chain and not your carb. I wont bother to go into my carb diatribe...... |
Calebw
| Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 02:47 pm: |
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I may have adjusted the primary too loose. It seems to clack when I shift gears and re-engage the clutch. I tightened a few flats, and it may have gotten better (or it may have been wishful thinking). The question is, does that sound like a too loose primary symptom or should I look somewhere else for the source of the problem? |
Gearheaderiko
| Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 06:00 pm: |
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Uh....aren't we still waiting for a torque wrench? Your chain is too loose. Your adjustment was "good enough" until you get your torque wrench! |
Calebw
| Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 10:59 pm: |
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Yes mother, lol. In all seriousness though I do appreciate your help. I got the wrench from amazon but it's 1/4 inch drive so I've got to find some way to scale it up to at least 3/8 inch drive so I can put a 3/4 inch on the end to adjust the primary. I'll try to find something to do that tomorrow. I just hate waiting to ride. A lot. But if it is the primary I'll just have to wait until I can get it fixed. (Message edited by Caleb.W on July 30, 2013) |
Gearheaderiko
| Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 07:28 pm: |
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Gainsville Harbor Fright will have a set of 1/4" to 3/8" adapters (including 3 other useful sizes), cheap and will probably be in stock. Sears/Craftsmen (Kmart, OSH and ACE hardware also sell Craftsmen and maybe others) might have the adapters in stock as will NAPA and some other auto parts stores. |
Gearheaderiko
| Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 07:34 pm: |
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PS If you still have the stock exhaust you'll need a 3/4 inch "Crows foot" (its shown in the repair manual). Harbor fright should have them cheap as well as the others I mentioned. You'll also need a 7/8" wrench for the big nut. (You can also use a 19mm crowsfoot and 22mm wrench-if a metric set would do you more good)) |
Buellistic
| Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 07:59 pm: |
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May "i" suggest putting on a XB PRIMARY COVER ??? That is what "i" did and all the problems went away !!! |
Ezblast
| Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2013 - 01:07 am: |
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lol - nice alternative - pricey for little return, unless you add a slipper clutch - which would then make it worth the effort! EZ |
Zroknwn
| Posted on Monday, March 07, 2016 - 05:01 pm: |
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Hello Everyone, I am new to the cycle game and decided to purchase a 2000 Blast. The bike is having almost the same issues that the OP had. My bike has about 4100 miles on it and I can't get it to get past the 60-65 mph mark unless I'm cruising down a big hill. The absolute fastest it will get is about 68-70, at that speed I will be in 4th gear and there is no change between 1/4 throttle or WOT. I have issues with the bike once I get to about 50 and only if I am at about 1/2 throttle will it do any type of acceleration. It idles just fine and from 1st to 3rd I have good acceleration, but anything past 45 mph it slacks off. Once again this is my first bike and have no idea about what to look towards first, I have mechanics knowledge with cars but never worked on a bike. The previous owner just recently replaced the voltage regulator, filter, plug, and battery. If someone is able to help me out with the issues I am having that would be awesome. Thanks in advance. |
Gearheaderiko
| Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2016 - 07:07 am: |
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Please go to this thread: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/201 64/644808.html?1457438779 |
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