| Author | Message | ||
     Jedambrose |
I am new to this forum so first off hi and thanks for all of your opinions. This forum is great. So here is my question/concern. I have read on here that the bikes come lean from the factory due to epa requirements and that you recommend re-jetting to 45/170 when all is stock. My question is have any of you tried this on a 2006? I saw that you are calling for the newer bikes to come stock with 42/170 but the service manual that I got says that it is stock at 42/166. Should I go with 45/166? 45/170? Thanks, Jed | ||
| Swampy |
Welcome to the Badweb Jedambrose! Stock it should run OK....But, with a 45 primary jet and a 170 main, plus shimming the needle .050, you will wonder why they didn't build it from the factory that way! Really, the Blast is lean, and likes it a little richer than what they are from the factory. You want to drill out the EPA plug so you can adjust your idle air mixture screw. A larger primary and the idle air screw properly adjusted will help with starting and low RPM operation. Shimming the needle will help with the mid range. The 170 main jet will help with the top end. (Message edited by swampy on May 13, 2007) | ||
| Jedambrose |
Thanks for the quick response Swampy! | ||
| Ezblast |
Concur! | ||
| Yttikcat |
ok - my 2006 Blast was running like shit. It was backfiring constantly and stalling out. The backfiring was not a new problem, but when I complained at the dealer they told me it was bad gas although I run premium gas only. I have the Blast pro series stuff and a D&D muffler. I took it back to the dealer and asked them to rejet the carb. Then - it rained for 3 weeks straight in Houston and I could not ride. Today I rode it to work, and what a difference. If I did not know better, I would swear the bike had been switched for a different bike. It never backfired, never stalled, and runs like a dream. It shifts into gears smoother also. Is this all from rejetting the carb? Thanks.  | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Blast Pros series stuff - cams too? If your carb was really out jetting wise, it could cause those problems. Generally changing just the air cleaner and exhaust dont cause it to be that far out and run that bad. Sounds like they fixed something else while they had it (intake boot, timing, float adjustment, idle mixture screw,?) Glad you've got a new bike, again! | ||
| Yttikcat |
I don't think I have the cams, just the intake stuff is pro series. Whatever they did, they only charged me $41 so I know it was not that much. Thanks Gearheaderiko. I really love my bike! | ||
| Swampy |
They probably found the spark plug wire loose. Switch it out to an NGK cap and it won't come loose again. I agree with Gearheaderiko that it shouldn't run that bad with the jetting out, it would just run flat. | ||
| Ezblast |
Das Boot! | ||
| Swampy |
Das Boot! Only her mechanic knows for sure! | ||
| Yttikcat |
Hi guys, just to refresh your memory, a few weeks ago I had my blast in the shop to rejet the carb. This solved the backfire problem. I drove it for a couple of days, in between rain days, and it worked great. Tonight I took it out and rode about 40 miles. About 2 miles from my house, at the intersection of a major freeway and a street, the bike died. I tried to start it up and the engine flooded quickly. I pushed it to a gas station and tried to start it up every 5 minutes. Each time there was a really strong gasoline smell. Black clouds and lightening were overhead. I called my neighbor to see if he could pick me up, I would leave the bike at the gas station overnight. In the mean time, 2 other bikers stopped to look at it and we tried to start it by popping the clutch - no luck. I told the guys that I had just had the carb rejected. One of them said that he thought maybe a screw from the rejetting came loose or something because there was no air mixing with the gasoline. I wanted to leave it at the gas station overnight since it is insured, but everyone said no. All of a sudden the rain hit so hard it was moving sideways and flooding everything (this is Texas after all). We got the Blast in the back of a pickup and it is sitting there (no idea how we will get it out). Help - I need ideas on what the problem could be. I am very frustrated. As always thank you guys in advance for your help.  | ||
| Slowhand96 |
Maybe they bumped the float when they changed the jets? There could be a piece of crud between the needle and seat. | ||
| Ezblast |
Stuck float? | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Concur! You have the worst luck  | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
PS Since your bike seems to have been not running more than running, I would suggest adding a fuel filter. A clear one for an old VW works well and is usually $3. You might have a bunch of crap in the tank. | ||
| Swampy |
What about the boot? | ||
| Yttikcat |
I am finally getting my bike out of the shop tomorrow and will let you know what the problem was. When they called to tell me it was ready they said it was a carb problem, but I will know more tomorrow. I know it seems like it, but I really don't have the worst luck and the good thing is that the bike is under warranty. I just need to date a guy who can work on Buells.  It is still a great bike and I can't wait to ride it home tomorrow - between rain showers that is! | ||
| Yttikcat |
I just picked up my Blast from the dealer and the R&R Intake Coupler had to be replaced since it was cracked. It was very nice riding it home today and I am a very happy girl now that I have my bike back. By the way - is this something that I could have seen if I would have had a better knowledge of the bike? | ||
| Xgecko |
Das boot strikes again.....honestly that it a problem for nearly everyone who has an aftermarket intake (myself included) they cost about $10 and require only a screwdriver to install. I carry one with me all the time as I have been struck by it more than once. As for seeing any problem with it....yes you can see a problem if you look between the carb and the intake manifold you can usually see if it's got any cracks. Move the whole assembly around a bit, it usually pretty obvious. Barbra at the risk of sounding like a Neanderthal buy the manual and parts book for you model year the Blast is so simple that most of the bike can be worked on by anyone with a little common sense, even a woman (my wife would hit me for that but it's true) | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Yttikcat: thanks for the update on your status. Xgecko is right. The Blast is very simple and you might be surprised at how much you can do. BuellKat does a lot of work to her Blast and women are usually eager to help out their sisters in motorcycling. | ||
| Buellistic |
This is how you correctly install the COUPLER,manifold-carburetor PN 27443-00Y referred to as the INFAMOUS BOOT ... Harley-Davidson sells a lot of these BOOTS ... Remember this: "HARLEY-DAVIDSON Dealers, making MECHANICs out of BUELL Riders since 1984 !!!" LUBE the threads on the hose clamps, spray SILICONE under the hose clamps so that you will get a good squeeze torque on the hose clamps ... TORQUE the hose clamps to 6 inch pounds each ... In BLASTing LaFayette | ||
| Yttikcat |
I did not know that the coupler was the infamous boot that we have discussed before. I think that getting the shop manual is a smart idea. I will talk to the dealer and order one. I also found a motorcycle repair course taught at Leisure Learning. It is taught by a Harley mechanic. I need to sign up for that. Thanks for all of the help! | ||
| Buellistic |
Yttikcat: Make sure you also get the PARTS BOOK for your year BLAST ... If BLASTers would get a PARTS BOOK(& factory service maunal) and call the parts by the proper parts book NAME everyone would be on the same page when discussing these issues ... Have a son living in HOUSTON, when and if "i" can get out there with my BLAST, there needs to be a HOUSTON BLASTers Gathering ... In BLASTing LaFayette | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Telling a newbie mechanic to turn their intake 'boot' into a greasy, sticky, slippery mess is a recipe for disaster. Making sure those hose clamps torque down good and tight is another recipe for disaster. Follow the repair manual and install it dry. Use new clamps if possible. Manual doesnt state a torque spec (that "i" could find) but if you're lucky enough to find and can afford a torque wrench that reads 6 inch lbs, you could try that. After you do it a few times, you'll get the hang of it. Its not rocket science. I've pulled carbs off many times, have never had an intake 'boot' failure, reuse old 'boots' all the time and run an unbraced ProSeries air cleaner on both street and race Blasts! (Message edited by gearheaderiko on August 04, 2007) | ||
| Buellistic |
There is a problem of technicians finding tools to do the job correctly !!! If it is not in the book, technicians are unable to do the job correctly !!! MOTOR MANUALS are written by technicians for technicians, MECHANICs have to seperate the FACTS from the "BUELLschitte" !!! It it is not in the book a technicians will have a problem !!! Remember this: "HARLEY-DAVIDSON Dealers, making MECHANICs out of BUELL Riders since 1984 !!!" Once "i" put something together it is time to Ride, not go back and do it over again !!! In BLASTing LaFayette | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
I've been doing HD rubber band intakes almost since they came out. Never has it been a good idea to 'lube them up'. Since your profile doesnt list a Blast anywhere, I wonder how many miles you've actually even put on a Blast. Enough to even know how long 'your' intake will last? You've got some good ideas, but lubing up a Blast intake is not one of them. If you learn how to install them right, you dont need to make rocket science out of it! | ||
| Buellistic |
LUBE is refering to the hose clamp screw threads !!! SILICONE referance is just for underneath the HOSE CLAMPS !!! Well, the PROFILE can be uo-dated to impress those that need to be impressed !!! IT IS NOT HOW LONG YOU HAVE HAD "OR" THE MILES YOU HAVE PUT ON A BLAST, "BUT" HOW MUCH YOU KNEW WHEN YOU GOT ONE AND HOW LONG YOU HAVE BEEN RIDING !!! Glad to hear some of these OLD MECHANIC's practices never go out of practicle use !!! In BLASTing LaFayette (Message edited by buellistic on August 05, 2007) | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
"SILICONE reference is just for underneath the HOSE CLAMPS !!!"Duh! "IT IS NOT HOW LONG YOU HAVE HAD "OR" THE MILES YOU HAVE PUT ON A BLAST, "BUT" HOW MUCH YOU KNEW WHEN YOU GOT ONE AND HOW LONG YOU HAVE BEEN RIDING !!! " Makes a big difference. If you're going to give advice on Blast maintenance, you'd better have worked on one and have the mileage and Blast experience to back up these 'special' procedures. If you dont think I knew where the silicone went, what do you think a newbie rider/mechanic would think? Blasters have heard all the knowitall advice from twin riders for years, only to find out they didnt know jack about the Blast. Your posts are never encouraging to the new rider/mechanic. Your constant saying the manual is always wrong and they must know secret tricks to keep their bike running is very discouraging. If they cant trust the manual and dont know the tricks, that only leaves them with a bike they cant work on (unless they contact you for advice). The Blast is a very simple bike to work on. Stop trying to make rocket science out of it. With your constant derision of Buell/Harley Davidson I wonder if you actually work for one of the 'Big Four'. | ||
| Joey |
The way I know it isn't tight enough--it pops off when my Blast backfires! | ||
| Yttikcat |
It stopped raining one day last week so I could take the Blast to work. Everything seems to working ok. Thanks for everyone's input. I really learn a lot from these postings. (Message edited by yttikcat on August 18, 2007) | ||
| Mountainstorm |
Yeah like how to emphasize every other sentence with caps lock. Buellistic...sigh | ||
| Buellistic |
You sure must be very bored if you lurk on the THUMPER Forum !!! Gets your "ATTENTION", does it not !!! | ||
| Reb |
Hi, I have a 2006 blast that cranks and wants to start. It actually start at times, but it runs ruff and die off when the throttle is applied or it shuts off right away. I cleaned the carb and put a new spark plug and still nothing. Can someone help me please? The bike only has 2600 miles. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Welcome! Did this just start after you cleaned the carb? When did these symptoms start? Sudden onset or gradual? Does it run at all? When was the last time it ran? First guess is a clogged slow jet or certainly a bad boot (Das Boot!). But we're going to need a little more information. "I cleaned the carb"  |
