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Jprovo
Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wedge,

Do yourself a favor, and buy the proper replacement Bolts from the dealer. From what I've read they are not common harware store items, and using common bolts could just cause them to fail.

There have been a few of us with front motor mount bolts failures. I think one of the leading couses of failure is owners or dealers removing the bolts to fix a rocker box leak (even though they don't need to be romoved) and not re-installing new bolts to the correct torque values, using the correct procedure. BTW, those bolts should not be re-used. If removed, they should be thrown away, and replaced with new bolts.

I know that there have been a few Blast motor mount problems lited on this board, (under ten by my count) and I think that a new owner should pay special attention to this high stress area on a used bike that has been know to have been crashed. That said, I don't think that it's a design flaw. At least 13,000 Blasts (probably closer to 15,000) Blasts have been produced, and very few have front motor mount failures. I am willing to bet that most of the motor mount bolt failures were due to incorrect installation procedure, or re-using the bolts.

James
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks again,Wedge it may be awhile before I get the Billet piece done though (a few things still under construction).
James is the high mileage Blaster around here so he's usually right about chronic Blast problems. Unfortunately when you buy a used bike you can never really be sure where its been or the quality of work done on it. The Blast is fairly trouble free if left stock.

PS Are you driving a Mopar with a 440 & 6 pack?
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Wedge446
Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For me its mopar or no car,I had a 65 coronet 440 6pack I built but then a guy started throwing money at me for it..Last mopar was a big block(383)duster.. again someone over the big pond started throwing money so it when to him...My next project is a fuel injected stroker thats going into my 92 dakota.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 01:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

383 Duster, very nice! I had a few Mopars back in the day (near me) when they were a dime a dozen because everybody was running a Chevy (and a few Fords).
The best I had was a '68 340 Barracuda.
Nice to hear from somebody still 'tweaking' them.

(Message edited by gearheaderiko on August 15, 2005)
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Jackbequick
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"883 Duster..."

Lets see, that would be two 440's and some change. :>; ) Sounds good to me. Like TV Tommy Ivo's dual engined cage?

Mopars are for the mentality that likes cubic inches and the point a little above where the torque and HP curves cross. That is the point of righteous performance and good durability.

The SBC/Ford guys seemed to want to get to 9,800 RPM and use flywheel and engine part inertia to offset the shortcoming in cubic inches. To my ears and mind that was tortured equipment.

But its okay, to each their own.

Mopar relates to H-D/Buell bikes as SBC Chevy does to HoKaSuYa rice rockets.

Jack
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Tnthumper
Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2005 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the name "mopar" came from the guy who kept going to his dodge dealer saying he needed some "mo parts" for his dodge!LOL!! I happen to like ford trucks but I do like all the old musclecars for their ability to be modified six billion ways from sunday.and without selling your first thru tenth born to do it
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Wedge446
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is getting on my nerves..
The motor mount bolt that was broken was replaced, It lasted 12 miles before I heard a pop sound..I looked and the new bolt broke,Is there something I`m not seeing that could be causing the bolts to brake?
I`m going to replace the bolt today, if it brakes again the bike goes up for sale..
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Jprovo
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is there something I`m not seeing that could be causing the bolts to brake?

More than likely... I'd pull the tank and give the whole motor mount area a good once over, also make sure that the Tie bars are in good shape and none of the bolt are loose or the tie bar sloppy. I'd also take a good look at the frame and fork stops for breakage/damage. Motly the front down section that support the lower tie bar.

Did you replace both bolts?? With factory new bolts?? If it was me, and all the other mounts checked out ok, I'd take the top isolator loose, install the top motor mount with new bolts, torqued to the FSM, and then re-install the top isolator bolt....

Best of Luck,

James
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Wedge446
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks James for the input..
I`ve checked everything from top to bottom for anything loose,worn or broken..Installed new bolts(both) and torqued them per the FSM..(for the 2nd time)
If it breaks this time, the bike is gone..
Thanks again.
Joe
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Jprovo
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wedge,

I hope for the best, It is a bummer that the last one broke. Again, Best of luck.

James
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Sarodude
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My experience with those bolts:

The dealers have a nasty habit of not torquing those per the manual. EVERY SINGLE BOLT FAILURE I could trace back to improper procedure.

EVERY SINGLE TIME I've replaced those (ALWAYS per the manual) I've had NO problems.

-Saro
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Wedge446
Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

150 miles on the new bolts with no troubles..
Maybe I got it right.
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Jprovo
Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope that all goes well. It sounds like you have it under control.
James
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Indyblast
Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well just had a new one happen to me.

2001 blast. All stock(well it was) with about 900 miles on her. At about 880 the exhaust header pipe broke off before the muffler and the rear bolt sheared off. Anyone else have this happen to them. Just gave me a good excuse to put the Jardine on.
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Happened to a couple of new Blasts - muffler broke off - first old Blast to have happen to. The dealers replaced free - but an old Blast - enjoy the Jardine!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Srbphoto
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just posted a website listing the problems I have had with my Buell Blast. If anyone knows how to get in touch with Erik Buell or cares to send him the website address, I'd be grateful. I have a lemon and the response from HD/Buell has been at best pathetic and for the most part, non-existent.
http://www.srbphoto.com/buell_blast
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Naustin
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your problem is that the dealership sold you a wrecked and abused bike. It has nothing to do with Buell or Erik Buell, who I'm sure would sympathize, but it isn't his problem.

If you buy a used car and drive it home without checking the oil, and then find out there is none and the motor is ruined, do you call up Henry Ford and blame it on him? NO.

You could blame it on the schmuck that sold it to you, but the ugly truth is that it is your own damn fault for not checking the oil before you bought it.
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Tnthumper
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with Naustin. Other than 2 ignition modules and a bad tank of gas(lots of water) my Blast has been trouble free. As for the hard/loud shifting to first it sounds like you are trying to shift with rpms too high. Mine is hard and noisy from neutral to 1st if I DON"T WAIT FOR TRANS TO SLOW DOWN ENOUGH. Point is i't my fault for having no patience not the bike. Could that be your problem? And you siad you bought a rider's edge bike. That bike was run at low speeds for most of it's life before you got it and most likely dropped several times. YOU should have asked this before you bought it.
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Court
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 05:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>It has nothing to do with Buell or Erik Buell

That is an accurate statement.

I can fix about ANY Buell problem. But, I looked at this and it has nothing to do with Buell. Most MANY of the statements in the website are inaccurate.

Court
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Srbphoto
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As I see it, Erik Buell designs the bike, is president of the company, participates in Riders Edge to promote his machines so it is his problem and he isn't listening.

He shouldn't allow the Riders Edge bikes to be sold. I bought the bike from a supposedly reputable dealer. If all you guys know there is a problem with these Riders Edge bikes, I want to know why Buell lets them be sold? Don't get upset.

It's a lemon. not the first one nor the last but the company president should know about it and perhaps acknowledge there's an issue with these Rider Edge machines.
http://www.srbphoto.com/buell_blast

You guys work for Buell?

srb
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Tnthumper
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Srb,
It's a matter that you apparently did not do your research. Sounds as if you were trying to save a few hundred bucks and that was all you could see not how the bikes were handled. Even the guys who work at my dealership won't hardly buy rider's edge bike due to abuse they see from people who don't know S#$T!! about riding.
I'm sorry about your bad experience. But if you take your time to read we all have had some issue or other with ours also. Just not to the extent you have. Even a new car will have some bugs.
John
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Jugallo94
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The abuse the riders edge bikes get has nothing to do with buell. It has to do with the dealership. If the dealership sells a bike without inspecting it, or doing the proper repairs, and you dont do an inspection of it before purchasing how is that Buells fault? Personally before I purchase anything used or new for that matter I do a complete inspection and if needed I test ride it. Just my .02 though
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Srbphoto
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tnthumper and Jugallo94

Thanks for your input. Unfortunately, I was not aware of badweatherbikers com when I bought the bike so....

You're both right. I should have researched it more thoroughly but I listened to dealer and was naive...

thanks

Stephen
http://www.srbphoto.com/buell_blast
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Swampy
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Srb,
When all this gets sorted out, and you get to riding your bike you are going to really enjoy it, and all this will fade.
Good luck
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Tnthumper
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Srb,
I agree with swampy. But let's turn this into a positive. Find the pieces and parts you you don't like and when weather gets bad use the time to tinker and modify your bike til you have one KICKA$$ mother of a machine. Just look at what some of the folks on the site have done.
John
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I concur! This bike is a great machine! That the majority of Rider's edge bikes never have a problem speaks for itself. That some do have problems should be no suprise, especially considering some of the HD dealerships. Then - if you are willing to deal with life's lot that you have been delt - you would fully use the Ext.War. you split with the dealer to purchase - and persue the true joys of riding that the bike offers. Yeah - you've had problems, however, none of them are related to Buell itself, but are more of the buyer beware type of thing that anyone could suffer buying a used bike - it is in how you deal with this adversity that will reflect upon you as a person - with my adversity I built a Blast of a Blast, and any Buell rider who rides it understands why I have yet to go to a twin Buell - lol
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark Side! EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 02:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry to hear of your troubles.
I do agree with you on the point of trusting the dealer to sell you a reliable motorcycle. Sadly you've found out the hard way, many dealers dont care much for, or about, the Blast.
1200 miles for a Riders Edge bike is some seriously hard miles and you can be sure, when no one was looking, the bikes were beaten.
I love the Blast, but 2 used vehicles in this world I wouldn't buy are a demo Mini (BMW) or a Riders Edge Blast (unless you're good with a wrench). While both are good vehicles, they are flogged mercilessly leaving them prone to problems.
I fully understand about your conscience not letting you sell it. I've been there. Do you sell it to some unsuspecting person or continue to throw money at it?
If you decide to do the latter, we're here to help.
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Light_keeper
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MIne was a low milage riders edge bike with only a few dings on the plastic. So far the problems I have had were in keeping with the same problems the owners had by getting it new. I replaced the valve cover gaskets because the bike was leaking oil. At first I thought it might be due to some unlnown injury but it is a common problem with 2001 and older bikes that had the fibre gasket. All of the other things are normal problems. I do not baby the bike but I dont mistreat it and has been a blast to ride. When I bought the bike the dealer was upfront with the past of the bike. They assured me that they had gone thru it. They told me that they wanted this to be a good experiance for me as they wanted me to come back and buy a Harley from them. (So far I am having to much fun on the Buell) They were also very up front on what they would and would not cover under warrenty.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anybody having cold start issues on the bike? We have had a cold snap here, and it is getting in the 20s. I have a customer that is storing her bike outside at her apt complex and it fails to start at her residence. But starts fine at the shop after spending a night inside in our temp controlled shop. Could it be auto-enrichener issues?
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Swampy
Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nope!

Check the battery first.
Then check to make sure there is some great winter grade premium gasoline in the tank.
Then check to make sure that the primary jet is a 45, and the main 165(if a stock bike) and the idle air adjustment screw is adjusted out 2 1/2 turns. Or 48, 170 if the bikes has any modifications to the engine(Actually it wouldn't hurt anything on a stock bike either!).
Then adjust the primary chain adjustment to a looser thant factory specification condition. You have to remember, the Blast likes to run rich in the hot weather, more so in the cold.
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