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Wsplrll
Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bought a K&N Filter to replace the stock air filter.

It seems the connector is an slight bit bigger than the stock filter and therefore does not fit snugly.

Anyone had this dilemma?

Thanks
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Wsplrll
Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BTW it is the BU 5000 which is supposed to be for all year Blasts.

Thanks !
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Wsplrll
Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Update - went over to Montco HD. The resident Buell tech said it is fine - the airbox will hold it in.

I test rode it and it seems to run very well. Placebo effect? Even if so it is worth it.

Also picked up a chrome timer cover to spiff up the bike a little.
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Jonnyblaster
Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Placebo? K&N? In the same post?

After I put that exact filter on my bike, if nothing else, I get about 10 mpg better and there's much less hesitation at take-off.
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Wsplrll
Posted on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am still curious about the fit of the K&N vs stock.

The stock fits snugly. The KN does not it actually is loose. I was told by the Harley techs that the airbox cover will hold it on and the intake of air will also hold it on. Seems like there is a little daylight even if very slight. No problems so far but I do wonder about it.

Any updates on the pro series exhaust not being on the accessories list on buell.com?
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Naustin
Posted on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why not wrap a layer of electrical tape on the cuff inside the airbox that the filter fits over in order to create a snuger fit?
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Wsplrll
Posted on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I thought of that. Maybe I will try it. I was just curious if anyone else has the same issue?
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Newblaster
Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine was always a little loose. I was just careful to get the tip into the right area on the airbox cover, which would straighten it and hold it in place. Of course, I had the nozzle on the puke line turned out to use the airbox as a catch can, so I got a lot of practice doing this, lol...
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I took a 3/8 double ended fuel line barb and took the TEE right out of the crankcase vent line, then I used the plug from the vent line to plug the hose that goes into the air box. After I straightened and rerouted the vent hose it hangs down about 4 inches below the swing arm. It is weird not having oil dripping out of the airbox and running down the right side of the motor. I think thats how it was supposed to be run! I just wish I would have done it sooner.
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Blue02m2
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A few things I tried while playing with the blast this weekend.

1) I installed the loose K&N. I found a piece of hose that fit tightly insided the K&N and cut it to be about 1/2 inch long to use as a bushing. I had to use a dremmel sanding drum to remove a bit of the inside of the hose to get it to fit over the nipple ( what ever you would call it ) inside the airbox. Nice tight fit. Stays in place when you open the airbox.

2) I saw EZ's article about enlarging the inside of the veturi into the airbox to the diameter of the air filter nipple. Not sure if the pressure drop across that venture is enough to be worth it but I though I would take EZ's idea to the extreme. I wrapped the outside of the venturi in epoxy putty and let it harden. Then I was able to dremmel out the inside diameter of the venturi to match the inside diameter of the air filter nipple. I hand sanded it back smooth into a venturi shape. Looks and sounds cool and I'm sure it flows better if the cyclender actually sucks hard enough for the previous diameter to have been restrictive: )

3) I re-routed the breather hose outside of the box. I was thinking that oil vapor and blow by gasses coming from the breather line were going into the carb and robing power independent of whether the t fitting was pointed at the carb or not ??? It's still in the airbox right? Just curious.
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice!
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2005 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

#3) Yes, but to a much lesser extent. The hose pointing at the carb does tend to suck oil out of the engine.
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Wsplrll
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a problem. I have taken out the airbox numerous times and put it back no problem. I took it out to reroute the breather -- I CAN'T get it back and aligned to all the connecting flange and crankcase holes. I have tried last night and today and I was sure that sooner or later I was going to break something Plastic is just not that durable when you are trying to get something to fit.

I know the breather hose makes it a little tight in there but that wasn't the problem.

The venturi cracked so......not maybe I just get the ProSeries intake and be done with it?

Anyone ever had this problem????
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Swampy
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Leave the carb boot loose, tighten the three bolts to the carb and air filter housing, then install the bolts to the air filter housing to engine, then tighten the intake boot. If you have the boot tight and then try to align the bolts to the engine you will twist the boot out of place. I have not had a problem with a boot in 10,000 miles.
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Wsplrll
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The hose was in the way. I took off the tank cover and the intake duct on the left side. when putting the duct back on the rubber grommet fell inside the frame. Had to take out the battery out..... anyway. Got it all back and ordered a new venturi.
breather hose is rerouted......finally.
next week the pro-series exhaust will hopefully be here.
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Sking1973
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A quick question. Is the K&N replacement filter worth the $50 or $60 bucks? I guess I'm just wondering what the advantage is over a stock replacement filter.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

K & N's are usually reusable and flow better than stock (better mpg & performance). If you're not putting that much mileage on your Blast I really dont think them worth it unless you're doing performance mods and you want to keep the stock airbox.
If however money is no object, they're worth it.
Spending money on an exhaust gets far better results (at the cost of being loud).

Just my opinion.
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Naustin
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When is the stock filter supposed to be replaced?
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Buellistic
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The SERVICE MANUAL says 10K ...

DUSTY CONDITIONS 5K !!!

When replacement is due, replace with a
K&N BU-5000(replacement for P0213.T) ...
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Robi
Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any suggestions on oil spraying methods for the K&N. My understanding is lightly spray the dirty side. Flat filter on Jeep no problem. Doing the same on the inside of the cone seems difficult.

Can I spray the outside of the cone?
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