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Court
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Am I the only one watching the Monster Diesel?

I think we are on the cusp of a revolution in motorcycling.

I know some folks in America who have, in the last 2 years, designed bikes for other firms that have received rave reviews.

Change is in the wind . . .
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F_skinner
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Absolutely, looks like they are going to be in your area on the 15th of March for a show and tell.

Frank
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Moxnix
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My, my. Three thumbs up.
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Metra6924
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't understand. From the website it looks like a styling exercise, not a diesel powered (compression ignition) bike. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Guell
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cusp of a revolution? Its bold new graphics...
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Ghettobirdpirate
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2012 - 01:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess this is lost on me. It appears to be a design, by a guy who designs clothes and other things, not a diesel powered motorcycle. I guess it looks cool if you can afford Ducati.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_(brand)
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Trbulnt
Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Agreed with ghettobirdpirate. Appears to be a collaboration with the clothing company Diesel as a design style exercise.
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They stole the paint scheme from the Moto Guzzi Griso S.E.
Other that that, it's just a run of the mill Italian L-twin with unnecessarily complex valve actuation.
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Arcticktm
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You guys are not missing anything. It is just a styling exercise by the clothing/accesory company Diesel.
Nothing to do with anything mechanical.

If Court was speculating that a true diesel motorcycle is the wave of the future, I would have to wonder if this heat wave has gotten the best of him!

Maybe he meant something else entirely.
Maybe he already has on of those diesel KLR based bikes?

Besides, all the magazines are all telling us that electric bikes are going to take over, and those guys never miss!

Except for that whole Cannondale dirt bike of the year thing, but who remembers that?

I'll still bet on electric over diesel bikes though, if you forced me to choose by numbers.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the newest generation of electric bikes are almost there... so the generation after that will start to take hold.

Make a bike with 100 miles range at 75 mph, that can recharge over night, sell it for $10,000, and they will sell well.

Make it for $5,000, and you won't be able to build a factory big enough to keep up with demand.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Make a bike with 100 miles range at 75 mph, that can recharge over night, sell it for $10,000, and they will sell well.

They are.

The ZERO is beginning to see use in the suburbs north of Gotham. Perfect bike for riding from home to the train station . . jump on the train . . commute to Manhattan . .

I've been taking photos of them sitting in various train stations.
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Bobbuell1961
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court, How about this, a never say die engineer is going to design a new bike to possibly receive rave reviews built by a foreign company wanting to break through to the American market?
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can't happen
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zero has a couple of Buell alums driving the train, I see great things for them.
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Arcticktm
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am in no way writing off electric, but I don't think even ZERO is claiming 100 mile range at highway speeds (and certainly not 75mph).
Based on my recent experience with the ZERO dirt bikes, their stated "up to" ranges are extremely optimistic.
They told us to expect 45 min per charge for beginners and about 30 min for more advanced riders on the track we went to (which only runs ZERO's).
Instead, each bike I rode was flashing low battery and started to slow down/cut out after 15 minutes of riding. And the suspension was very poor stuff taken from a mountain bike that was getting crushed each lap (though repeatedly abuse as a rental might explain some of that).

In short: intriguing, something to keep an eye on, but not ready for a larger audience (outside of urban commuter) for at least 1 more generation.

The ex-Buell presence at ZERO made them instantly more interesting to a lot of us here back when that was announced, for sure.
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Blackblue
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lej-KopK1tc

Speaking of the ZERO DS, they recently tested one on the web TV series RideApart, the same team that does Hell For Leather magazine does it.

Anyhow... BRD on the other hand seems to be doing better and closer to being more realistically usable than the zero is, and allegedly feels more like a motorcycle should, with engine braking actually being present, whereas it's not there at all on the zero...
http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2012/07/riding-t he-brd-redshift-sm-on-the-snake/
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