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Phillyblast
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
Coupla quick questions:
1) I noticed in the classifieds another yellow S2 for sale, and the seller mentioned the original paint on the tail and the rest of the bike doesn't match. Mine has the same "feature" and I was wondering if there was a story behind it, and if I could remind you to tell me sometime?
2) Since I'm asking questions the front forks have "rs 12 94" stamped into the top of them, right next to the adjusters. Bike is a 12/94 build, so that part makes sense, but what's the rs?
Thanks
David
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Court
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know the answer to either one of those questions but your timing is excellent. I am, this weekend, headlong into the chapter on the S-2 so I'll start looking into those.

Next week it's off to Gibsonia, PA to visit some very interesting "old timers".
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How far is Gibsonia from Maryland/Gettysburg? If you're nearby (i.e. within an hour or so), first round's on me : )
joe
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Alchemy
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gibsonia,... hummmm, sounds like the birthplace of the man perhaps.
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Toona
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Come on over Court, you gotta go past Altoona to get there.

BTW, it would be rude to get this close and not stop in

PM me if you have the time available.
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S1wmike
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"rs 12 94"

My 98 S1W has rs and ls on top of the fork tubes near the adjusters, ironically the ls is on the right side and the rs is on the left side. I know the forks has been apart on this bike before I got it and I was think they got the fork tubes crossed up on reassembly the is no function problem and to the best of my knowledge this is no difference in the top of the usd forks.

Mike
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Court
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perhaps you need to lay under it and look up!

: )
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Phillyblast
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I guess I have two right side forks on the bike from the factory : )
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Court
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ASSUMPTION: I have two right side forks on the bike from the factory

FACT: You have two fork legs with the marking "rs 12 94" on them.



(Message edited by court on July 23, 2007)
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Phillyblast
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to mention I spelled "gess" wrong
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Court
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahhhhh. . . . remnants of the guy who was "good friends with Eric".

I still laugh at that.
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Jimidan
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As I remember, on some of the S1's the right side and left side forks were different from each other, as one adjusted for the compression and one for the rebound only. I am not sure why it would matter enough which was on what side to stamp rs and ls on them though.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Since I'm asking questions the front forks have "rs 12 94" stamped into the top of them, right next to the adjusters. Bike is a 12/94 build, so that part makes sense, but what's the rs?



I was wondering where this question was . . .

I finally got a hold of the person who knew. Those forks were some of the ones, you likely have an early S/N, that were purchased for the gorgeous Buell RS-1200.

The "rs" is the model they were for, there is no right side/left side distinction.

Sorry it took so long. . . I had the answer, couldn't recall where the question was.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jimidan - you are correct. The WP forks on my S1W have comp on one side, reb on the other. Don't ask me which is which...I'm about 3 margaritas into my Saturday night, LOL.
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Phillyblast
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
Cool, I actually thought that was the answer, but didn't want to "assume" ;) anything. Really no such thing as right or left since the Romas on the S2 didn't have sep. adjusters for comp. and reb.
My bike (you saw it at Aaron's some number of years ago) is most likely number 700 (but with the serial # shenanagins concerning the S2 it's difficult to say).
I can tell you it's late enough in the run to have the "fatty" front fender without the holes and a forged, not billet, triple-tree setup.
On the second question I'm thinking someone might have changed out the back 'glass with a 96 setup - it has the second set of mounting holes for the turn signals, presumably for the relocation when adding hard bags.
Off to zip-tie the catch can just in case the torrential downpour stops and I can ride to work tomorrow.
Thanks again
D
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Philly - you have some interesting points. My 95 S2 has bags (accessory parts, not a T bike) and second holes in back for the turn signals. I just assumed they were relocated to fit the notch in the bag. Also on the front fender, it looks the same as the early ones but mine is without holes as well (VIN 1365 / Series 1365 on mine). I'll have to check the triple clamps - what's the giveaway on forged vs billet?

Still learning, I guess...I love these bikes!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...and along the lines of learning. The catalog lists the OEM rear fender (on the wheel) for an S2 as "carbon fiber". Mine's texture black. Were they CF painted black, or do I have a later fender on my bike? If it's painted, has anyone stripped the paint and polished or cleared the CF?
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Court
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 1995 Buell rear inner fenders were made of visible weave carbon fiber. They can easily be spotted by their green hue.

The 1996 Buell rear inner fender was made of carbon fiber and covered with black Vylon. It has a black pebble finish appearance.
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Phillyblast
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rat,
I meant to type cast, not forged, but either way you'll see machine marks on the billet ones, and most likely a seam from casting on the others.
You do have a CF fender -but the 96 CF has a texture paint thing on it to cover up the weave - it wasn't pretty from what I've heard, hence the camo.
All accounts is it was covered up for a reason, so don't bother stripping it.
Mine has turned a nice greenish tint over the years.
It's possible I wound up with an S3-style front fender on mine - I'm not the original owner. the FSM shows two styles in the photos, one fatter than the other, without holes. I always thought the giveaway on the S3 replacement was ABS plastic - mine's glass, but I've been wrong before.
I'm going to start looking for a set of original skins to have painted - got a guy can match pretty much any color, so I haven't decided if I want to try and duplicate Yellow Jacket Pearl or maybe go for something a little more "unique"
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Odd. I wonder why my '95 has a black pebble '96 rear fender - which is showing signs of some green weave where it's been rubbed by the brake line. And a no-hole fatty fiberglass front. Late build?

The triple clamp doesn't show signs of casting flash that I can see. It's very nice aluminum with dark grey in the indents. Dunno if that helps or not...

I would start to wonder if my bike was indeed a '95 given the fenders, fairings and bags, but I have all the documentation and signature stuff with it. <shrug> Maybe I'll have to check my build date, but given the higher signature number maybe it is a late build?

And...am I the only one whose last 4 VIN digits matches the signature number?
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1313
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Phillyblast,

The S2 triple clamps that were not billet, were indeed forged. Using a cast piece for the triple clamp after using a billet part would be a step backwards strength-wise.

1313
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Phillyblast
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the heads up - I couldn't find the list of running changes and couldn't remember cast/forged - so I cya'd ;)
I'll have to find/take a pic of the front fender and triples one of these days to see what folks think re: original/forged/etc.
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