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Author Message   Blake Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 09:43 pm:        Mike (Coolice), Ah preciatecha tryin tuh talk East Texan, but it's "git her done" with "git" bein the operative wurd.   Blake Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 09:55 pm:        Whoa! What is going on here???!!! LOL!! "Blake read my lips where did I say Sponsorship." Maybe I misunderstood you Dana. If so I humbly beg your pardon. In my defense, please not that your post was a bit hard to follow, and your statement of "get the team or teams the money at a Brag event and then? kick off of the first Daytona start in history for Buell??" left me thinking that you wanted to distribute funds prior to the race, which would constitute sponsorship. Your on your own.I'll put my money else where." I'm on my own? Everyone else is abandoning the idea? Apparently you missed the smily face and my lighthearted comment? <sigh> That was quite a turn around. LOL! From "Blake I plan on contributing that is for sure." to the above in successive posts?   Blake Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 10:02 pm:        Naysayers please take a hike. Yes, I removed your posts that I deemed subversive towards this effort. If you want to participate in the group effort, you are WELCOME as are your suggestions! If not, please do not post in this thread. Thank you.   Blake Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 10:06 pm:        Buells have run at Daytona before plenty of time. I saw them run there in 2001. Pro-Thunder was an AMAPR class at that time from something like 1998 thru 2002 or something close to that, please don't quote me on the exact timetable.   BadS1 Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 10:17 pm:        No Buells have not run Daytona ever in FX against the likes of Team Honda Blake and never as the Spot light race that Superbike is no longer in that spot.I'm not a nay sayer.Respect me I'll respect you.Talk to me and treat me like you would like to be treated and maybe I wouldn't come across to you this way.And I'll still buy those shirts for support and contribute here as long as we can seem to understand one another.   Blake Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 11:00 pm:        "as long as we can seem to understand one another." Therein lies the key. First Daytona 200 start, yes, I see what you are saying now. I agree, it is a momentous occasion.   Davegess Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 11:53 pm:        Seems we have 3 choices. Contingency money at every race, a smaller payout each time but maore people might get a bit. Money at one or two or three events biger payout, less exposure for badweb(maybe more exposure at one place, if we pay 5000-10000 bucks at RA or Daytona we might get a bunch of track attention, program mention, PA mentions etc., less people get a piece Money for total points scored over course of season. One payout at the end. covers the whole season, many people get a shot at it, maybe more exposure for badweb. Am i correct on the three options? I vote for number 3 It is Blakes call but I bet he will count everyones opinion on this. I'm still in for 100 Dave   Blake Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 12:20 am:        That is about it Dave. Good summary. The one drawback to putting the contingency towards the season points totals is that we then are doing little to help out the teams/riders during the season. I only mention that because it was the impetus that spurred me to raise this idea in the first place. We could do both. We need more money though.   Charlieboy6649 Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 12:58 am:        Quite the conundrum. I too am in favor of option 3, but without the $$ early, the Buells might not fair as well in the season. So I guess bigger payouts at a few races sounds best. The big payout is sure to attract attn for the board as well...   Coolice Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 12:58 am:        I'm still in Blake! Just like to give the teams a boost at Daytona and show em we are behind them. $$$ sure helps the racers and this is a special race for Buell being in the "big" show. I'll be there! So lets work this out and continue to raise funds TOGETHER so the Buell motorcycle we all share on this site can show its potential.   Blublak Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 09:46 am:        Davegess, Blake, I think we could actually pull off a combination. Blake and I had mentioned a 'sliding scale' approach to the contingency. Now, if we calculated say a 'top three' pay out, with funds (yes, I know I'm speculating on the amount of money available) available for a 1,2,3 podium finish (It could happen!) Then pay out according to actual finish. Monies not paid out during the season for each race could form the 'highest points' award at the end of the season. Does that all make sense? Or am I not describing it correctly? Later,   Blublak Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 09:53 am:        Oh and Firebolt.. Out in Iraq.. If need be, I'll cover your contribution and you can pay me back when your back in CONUS. Later,   Davegess Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 10:48 am:        Blubak, soounds like a good plan. Blake where can I send the money?   Blake Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 11:23 am:        We need a minimum of $6,500 in order to make it a go for an AMA contingency. Almost there. Where are all Buell enthusiasts?   Whitetrashxb Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 11:32 am:        if we went with Option 3 as stated above, the payout may not benefit the current season, but wouldn't it also allow Badweb more time to possibly raise more cash throughout the season? Then the winner would have more $$$ to put toward the NEXT season. Just thinking long term benefits down the road, hoping the teams will be there in future seasons to compete.... the 'sliding scale' sounds like a good idea as well, and ultimately it makes no difference to me, just glad to be a part of it thanks, james   M1combat Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 11:54 am:        What about contingency for ONLY Daytona? That way we could get the money to the teams quickly and we get to be on the bikes at the big event? It seems that the teams running Daytona are the ones that would be interested in going the distance... How many Buells will be at Daytona? 2 or 3?   M1combat Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 11:55 am:        Blake... You said we need a minimum of $6500 for the AMA. Does that mean that if we come up with $6600 we only have $100 that will go to the teams or does the AMA take a small percentage?   Josh_ Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 12:09 pm:        We need $6500 because there's a $1500 fee and we want at least $5000 to pay out?   Blake Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 06:06 pm:        Josh is too astute. We need to guarantee award funding of at least $500/race x 10 races is $5,000 plus $1,500 for administration fee. You caught me; yes I am being ultra conservative wrt the raffle of the event passes. I suppose we could go green with $5,000 and hope to make the $1,500 through the raffles/auctions and/or ongoing fundraising. I just ordered my Daytona tickets.   M1combat Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 06:10 pm:        Too astute... Don't you have to be able to observe something to be astute? I didn't see that number posted. Oh well, My non-astute self probably missed it .   Josh_ Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 07:41 pm:        You needed to read Blake's recap of the AMA call.   Slaughter Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 07:04 pm:        Blake - raffles are a great fundraising option. I'd rather play the BADWEB lottery in any case   Blublak Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 01:30 pm:        Uh.. just out of curiosity, how much is in the pledge pool now? I know there have to be more of us out there that are willing to put up some money to help support Buell Racing. But, just for the sake of getting started, where do we stand? Later,   Blake Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 04:11 pm:        Where's that Lake character? BadWeB Name Real Name Pledge Bigdaddy Greg Gabbard $100.00 Bjack Bruce Jackson, Jr $100.00 Blake Blake $200.00 Blublak Peter Migala $100.00 Charlieboy6649 Charles Dire $100.00 Coolice Mike Kirkpatrick $100.00 Court Court Canfield $200.00 Cyclonemick Mickey Harden $100.00 Davefl Dave Ingle $100.00 Davegess Dave Gess $100.00 Daves Dave Stueve $100.00 Dirtsquirt Dick German $100.00 Ethanr Ethan Rutter $100.00 Firebolt020283 Donald Wyman $100.00 Firemanjim Jim Higgins $100.00 Ftd Frank Davis $100.00 GOMO Dan Gomo $100.00 Hans Hans Inzerda $100.00 Ingemar Ingemar Bijker $100.00 Jerry Haughton Jerry Haughton $100.00 Jose Quinones Jose Quinones $100.00 Jprovo James Provencher $100.00 KCBRAG KC BRAG $100.00 Knickers Kurt Nickerson $100.00 Lake_bueller Dennis Fenrick $100.00 M1Combat Donald Hann $100.00 Madduck Paul Elliot $100.00 Mbsween Matt Sweeney $100.00 Mcgiver Brian Hooper $100.00 New12r Charles Maike $100.00 Odie M. Oldfield $100.00 Peter Peter Moltmann $100.00 Rex Rex Chaney $100.00 Road Thing Tom McCarroll $100.00 Rocketsprink Rocco Scola $100.00 Slaughter Steve Slaughter $100.00 Smoke Tim Ivanoff $100.00 StealthXB Travis McCutcheon $100.00 Toadboy Tim Faith $225.00 Vegas Bueller Nick Moody $100.00 Whitetrashxb James Williams $100.00 -------------------- ------------------------ -------------- . Total Pledged: $4,425.00 Toadboy has high pledge honors! Way to go Tim! Will be posting this up top for permanent viewing/updates.   Davegess Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 05:12 pm:        Here is a contingnecy that Triumph has set up. "The Thruxton Challenge is sure to inspire competitors and spectators alike. Triumph Motorcycles will be offering a special rebate program for series competitors. AHRMA license holders purchasing a new Thruxton 900 for this race series will receive an $800 rebate directly from Triumph. Triumph and AHRMA also have joined forces to post a $4,500 points fund for the 2005 season. The series champion will earn a check for $2,000, while the second-place finisher will receive $1,000; third, $750; fourth, $500 and fifth, $250. A rider must compete in at least two rounds to qualify for the prize fund, and your best 10 finishes will count. The payout will occur at the 2005 Roadrace Awards Banquet during next year’s Florida Bike Week." More details here; http://www.ahrma.org/thruxton_challenge.htm   Charlieboy6649 Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 11:11 pm:        Not to be picky but my last name is DINE!!!   Gomo Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 08:34 am:        "Not to be picky but my last name is DINE" Well if we are going for spelling, change my first name to Don. Is there any planned time the collection of donations will start? Is there a wait for the $6500 to be pledged first or are we going to start and build as time goes?   Blublak Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 09:56 am:        So.. Since there hasn't been any additional postings here.. does this mean our "BadWeb Contingency" fund has died a quiet death? Or is there still some life in it after all? I know there are more of us out there.. And I know they would love to see more Buells Racing.. Sooo.. Let's pony up folks.. We still need a little more of the green to meet our goal! Isn't there anyone else that wants to make this happen? Ok, I'll stop begging.. for now.. Later,   Tripper Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 10:49 am:        There has been more activity on this over on The Dark Side of the board. Blake??? DasBuell put a motion on the table last night, and Gail's American Heartland Club (listed as KCBRAG in the table above) confirmed their commitment of $100 if this program goes ahead. Where are the other BRAG clubs? SLAP... PLOP (sound of gauntlet hitting floor}   Slaughter Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 03:26 pm:        Well - our BRAG Club is scrounging up their coins to support our local BRAG racers. Kinda hard to ask them to pony-up more $$ when there are already 7 of us racing this year out of the Glendale BRAG chapter. That said, I'm still in for $100