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Bigdaddy
Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tripp's one of the good guys. We miss having him around here.
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Jimidan
Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ebear sez: "JESUS..!!! Thats more than the Hasselblad back I've been lusting after...it's only 32mp....they now have a 48mp.....who knows what that monster costs!


TRUE, and the kicker is that in two years or less, it will be obsolete (as a pro cutting edge camera).

I used to shoot medium format too, and I was told that when scanned on the right equipment that a really good 645 neg was the equivalent of 100 mega pixels. Does that make sense?
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Jimidan
Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 02:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It must be pretty nice being Danny Eslick these days. This is just some dynamite racing he is involved in. He obviously is having a ball doing it. It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

I am going to VIR to watch him do it some more.
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

100 mp makes sense. I had a Kodachrome 35 mm scaned on a Heil drum scanner back in the day and it was 80 MB, I regulary get 25 MB out of my 35 mm negatives. These is really an infinite amount of data in film so the digital equivilant is always a compromise. Thats why we keep seeing these hugly expensive pro cameras.
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Ebear
Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK Greg...I'll bite....WHY?
Yeah, it does,Jimidan .When I scanned simple
35mm stuff in the 'best' resolution I got HUGE files 4-5 mb normals came out to 25-35 mb's and more. I think were breaking the image down to small enough bits so the micro-lens technology and throughput will be next to increase.As far as resolution goes....other than vid display tecnologies,untill we build printers with smaller dot size we really can't print pixel to dot prints without interpolation.Seems like a waste to break it down any further without the output being equal.
Lucky guy , wish I could get away for that! But I will be at Jersey for the final....just bought my tickets. Does anyone live nearby enough to recommend a motel thats inexpensive with free Wi-Fi?
I've brought my Boys to Wildwood years ago and I know there must be some nice places near the water that wont break the bank!
I'll be looking for those shots from Virginia , Jimidan!
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Gregtonn
Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A man named E. Muybridge used a row of trip wire operated cameras to snap a dozen or so photographs of a horse and sulky. People were astonished to see proof that a trotting horse can simultaneously have all four hooves off the ground. The story goes that Muybridge originally did this to win a bet. And the rest, as they say, is history.

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Buell2001b
Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

dude don't forget the umbrella girls, take some pics of them too,lol
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Jimidan
Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll be looking for those shots from Virginia , Jimidan!

I can't take my camera ;-( ...I am riding over on my ol' S2 and camping on-site, so I will have tent and gear to haul. There will be someone else taking shots, for sure, but they won't be ebear quality. You have set the standards petty high around here, ebear!

VIR is my favorite track, as the elevation change is a monster, and the ride over through the mountains is supreme.}
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Ebear
Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And absolutely a track I have been wanting to visit for years.....I guarantee NEXT YEAR I will shoot that track. Everything I've seen about it has been very positive.......and that valley is cool!
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Bigblock
Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ebear,

thanks for all the AWESOME pix!
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Ebear
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Your most Welcome!!
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a link to a neat video:
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=37624
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Imonabuss
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Found this post on the 1125 board and thought it would be appropriate to repeat it here:

Anonymous
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 07:21 pm:

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The stupidity of the magazines publishing this stuff is amazing. Not only do we not know what the power to weight is, but power to weight doesn't remotely tell the story on a roadrace course. There is so much more to a motorcycle than these morons write. I'll list three items and there are many more.

1) Just regarding power to weight, the conclusions of "unfairness" are ridiculous and uneducated. First of all the heavier bike will be at a disadvantage in every area except acceleration. Duh. The power doesn't help going into corners and the extra weight on the identical spec tires hurts braking and in corner speed.

2) Then, the impact of power drops off exponentially with speed when CdA takes over. So a heavy bike with a higher CdA would be slower into and through the corners, quicker once it gets out of the corners but then drop off and likely get passed on the long sraightaways.

3) A high inertia engine is wonderful for street tractability, and great in the wet, as the wheelspin is lazier and more controllable. Hmmm, wonder if that's why there were four Buells in the top ten at Road America in the rain? But crankshaft inertia is a disadvantage on a dry race track in the hands of top pro riders who ride with lots of wheelspin. Where traction is high, greater inertia hurts spin-up speed of the rear tire when setting a bike up to turn with a sliding tire. You can spin it up biut it's less responsive to do quickly, so your best bet is to break it loose early and hard under braking then keep it lit. With spec tires this means your tires will get fried earlier, and your ability to modulate the throttle and spin is slower too. Hmmm, sounds like Danny at Laguna, eh, if you watched the race with an interest in actually seeing what was going on.

4) (I know I said 3 but I had to throw in a bonus, but there are many, many more attributes at play in a motorcycle than these) As we said before, high engine inertia makes a bike mellow on the street as it keeps the bike from being jerky on and off the throttle, keeps dust or water on the road from being as much of a problem. But it makes a bike harder to snap right left through S type turns on a race track. The only way to get through these turns is to short shift and drop the rpm, but then the bike won't accelerate off the corner.

So, what we are seeing is a race class that takes this complexity and differences in motorcycle design into account, and allows rules juggling as more information about the different bikes' performances comes in. And lo and behold, we have a great series, with 6 brands and significantly different types competing for the wins.

These people who are tainting the great racing with truly uneducated "technical" comments like "What about more power" need to go back to school. Yes Danny has an acceleration advantage, but he was nearly ten MPH down on top speed to the Hondas on the long back straight at Road America. Did he whine about that? No. Don't you think it must frustrate him when the lighter bikes can outbrake him and block the smooth line he needs to take to minimize inertia effects, or drive around him in a corner later in a race after his tires are fried? Sure, but he never says "Well I could have won if those other guys weren't allowed lighter bikes"
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cardenas broke is right hand so if he does ride he may have issues riding top level. Danny crashed in qualifing... hope hes ok.
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Firstbuell
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Taylor Knapp, who's faster than Danny so far, also crashed, but placed 2nd
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Buell2001b
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Danny take it easy, with cardenas hurt you dont need to get hurt. just get the points and keep hacking of your back.
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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like Danny gained some points on Cardenas. That hand of his must be pretty painful.
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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Danny Eslick 357 73 1* 1* 3 1* 8 3 5 12 6 5 8 1*# 1* 1* 3* 7 2 6
2 Martin Cardenas 340 9 3 4 1 34 1* 1 1* 1 3 1* 36 12 3 18 1 9 11 7
3 Josh Herrin 321 2 6 5 6 2 4 30 31 3* 13 13 3 2 8 2 2 1 1 2
4 Jamie Hacking 274 4 2# 2 7 5 3 2* 2 13 8 9 9 35 2 3 9 0
5 Jason DiSalvo 261 3 4 3 19# 7 2# 7 16# 2 12# 3 32 9 11 6# 4 2* 27 0
6 Jake Zemke 218 11 5 6 4* 39 7 28 8 5 36 2 29 4 10 7 6 4 7 0
7 Tommy Aquino 213 61 10 8 8 32 5 13 6 4 14 18 4 3 9 3 5 32 3 0
8 Chris Peris 212 72 7 10 9 3 10 23 7 7 1* 4 7 8 12 10 10 33 8 1
9 Chaz Davies 194 7 8 7 5 6 28 4 4 31 39 8 2 5 7 4 36 36 30 0
10 Steve Rapp 179 12 9 9 41 9 6 14 3 6 27 12 6 6 6 34 15 5 25 0
11 Taylor Knapp 169 10 4 9 15 34 9 4 6 37 7 4 12 8 17# 4 0
12 Roger Hayden 149 2 31 14 37 9 40 2 11 38 40 5 9 7 10 5* 0
13 Michael Barnes 113 25 12 15 11 8 11 5 22 33 9 7 11 38 13 20 17 38 32 0
14 Michael Beck 103 26 16 19 14 10 21 17 12 11 33 19 12 14 16 17 12 11 12 0
15 Bobby Fong 101 23 17 13 8 29 14 10 5 9 6 6 0
16 Damian Cudlin 92 13 18 16 12 8 11 10 5 17 15 14 0
17 Chris Fillmore 77 14 13 12 38 13 11 10 27 24 10 33 8 34 21 31 0
18 Dane Westby 71 8 21 14 26 33 43 10 21 34 15 24 25 28 11 35 8 10 0
19 Shawn Higbee 70 5 15 35 20 16 7 37 13 10 20 39 16 18 34 0
20 Robertino Pietri 63 66 31 12 15 36 17 12 19 14 42 16 5 23 19 45 38 40 18 0



* Lap Leader
# Best Qualifier
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Smoke
Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Congratulations on a good Buell racing weekend!! Danny in the championship lead!! WOOHOO!!!
tim
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Blake
Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sunday's race was another great one. Anyone who is boycotting the series is missing the best motorcycle racing on the planet right now. This is the best racing I've seen in the AMA in, well, ever. I was actually rooting for Roger Hayden to get a win. The young man has suffered through enough bad luck of late.

Looks like Yamaha is dominating the world in road racing lately. From MotoGP, to WSB, to AMA. Congrats to them. Chaz Davies has apparently been cursed. Did he piss off Rossi? joker I hope that team gets their act together for the last round and gives the kid a bike that can compete for a win.
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Buell2001b
Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

nice going Danny and team. I have to say the yamaha kid put a great fight. It was sad to see disalvo get hurt, he was doing so well. I hope he will be ok.
it was nice to see 2 buells and 2 yamahas take the top 4 spots on sunday. awesome race
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell got incredible grief for the fairing incident at Daytona. IMO, the shifter malfunction in BOTH Superpole and the Race 1 the following day is WAY more embarrassing than having some aftermarket fairing rip off.
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Xbpete
Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just watched the race Sunday again, that's three times watching laps 12 to 10 and seeing some of the best racing I have seen.

To the naysayers who do not watch DSB ... you are missing some of the best racing there is!

Danny rode that thing to the ragged edge, the semi-get off and recovery to place second for sure optimized the pucker factor!

I will be there on the 4th... could not live with myself if I missed it!

GO RMR! GO DANNY! GO BUELL RACING!
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Court
Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Danny rode that thing to the ragged edge

That's an accurate statement . . . that kid rides the WHEELS off that bike. I think I said, following his first race, that he and that Buell become one and he has total command and control of the bike.

Danny's riding is art.

Court
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Opinions of DMG aside, I have to agree there is some awesome racing happening in the AMA DSB class!!!!

(Message edited by Paint_shaker on August 17, 2009)
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Ebear
Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That PARTICULAR bike should have the moniker "BUCKIN' BUELL BRONCO"
me thinks!!
Really nice save, Slick......
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M2nc
Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It was fun to watch the race in person. You get so much more perspective on how good Danny really is. We were all standing in turn four where Danny was making as much as two bike lengths from three to four a lap and then put the move on Knapp going into four and then on a couple of more through the grass in turn 6. Very impressive to watch him in person.
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Firstbuell
Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

art has its limits -

http://superbikeplanet.com/image/2009/us-superbike /virginia/vir6/08.htm

a material measure of Danny's commitment
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Sparky
Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry, I refuse to go to stuporbikeplanet anymore and condone their immature squid-like anti-Buell bias.

I would much prefer to see someone copy and paste stuporbikeplanet's blatherings here rather than having us click their site and up their page count, eh?
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Snowscum
Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)




The Buell made up 3-4 places a lap, passing riders left and right, until Eslick was at the front. Real. Fair.

image by nelson and riles


What a bunch of kids over there at sp.
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Firstbuell
Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sparky,

ol' pal, to each their own -

that ridiculously biased site hosts unique fotos & articles which enrich my experience -

I was unaware of any page count concerns - hmmm, an interesting perspective......
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Xbpete
Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

a material measure of Danny's commitment

Now that was worth a visit! Planet has a pic of Danny's knee and burned puck .... read the write ups on VIR.. not a bad thing except one article had "Deltona" instead of "Daytona"

Whatever, bottom line is Danny over Cardenas by 17 with one more twin to go..

Remember guys, this one is for Bruce...

Its gotta be, its gonna be,,, I have waited since '72 for this, long before many racing or writing the ilk directed toward Buell were even a sperm in waiting.

If my Phillies can be World Champions twice in my lifetime, Red Sox getting over their curse, anything is possible~!

Somehow I think the man who gave us those shite eating grins every time we throw a leg over and push the button is gonna get a championship ....

BE THERE!
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

VIR Racing Photos Courtesy Buell Motorcycle Co.


Slick & Knapper at VIR



Danny Eslick in Top Form at VIR


Spectacular.

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