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Odinbueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From the AMA;

Buell 1125RR Approved for AMA Pro National Guard American Superbike Competition

New American Superbike Challenger to Debut with Taylor Knapp This Weekend at Mid-Ohio
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (July 15, 2009) - Officials from AMA Pro Racing announced today that the Buell 1125RR has been approved for competition in AMA Pro National Guard American Superbike presented by Parts Unlimited, and one of the new motorcycles is entered in this weekend's Honda Super Cycle Weekend presented by Dunlop Tires at Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course.

The Buell 1125RR is the latest offering from the Buell Motorcycle Company and also the newest bike to be approved for competition in AMA Pro American Superbike. A total of 10 different motorcycles from seven different manufacturers are now approved and homologated for AMA Pro American Superbike competition.

The Buell 1125RR bikes will be debuted this weekend at Mid-Ohio. Taylor Knapp, who has been impressive on a Latus Motors Racing Buell 1125R in the AMA Pro Daytona SportBike presented by AMSOIL division this season, will ride the No. 44 Buell 1125RR under his own Taylor Knapp Racing banner at Mid-Ohio. The leading privateer has also campaigned a Suzuki GSX-R1000 in American Superbike this year and has ranked in the top-10 in the class point standings for the majority of the season. He has posted seven top-10 American Superbike finishes, including a season-best sixth in the Saturday final at Infineon Raceway. He has also earned a pair of fourths on the Buell Daytona SportBike in the Sunday final at Road Atlanta in April and at Race 1 last month at Road America.

The Buell 1125RR is the second motorcycle approved for premier class competition in AMA Pro Road Racing in the last three weeks. Just prior to the Fourth of July Weekend Red Bull U.S. Grand Prix at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca, AMA Pro approved the KTM 990 Super Duke for competition in AMA Pro Daytona SportBike presented by AMSOIL. The bike was given its AMA Pro Road Racing debut by Tri-Valley Moto and rider Eric Gulbransen who finished 28th out of 39 entered bikes on the No. 394 KTM 990 Super Duke.

This weekend's Honda Super Cycle Weekend features dual American Superbike and Daytona SportBike finals on Saturday and Sunday. Also on the schedule are rounds for AMA Pro SuperSport presented by Shoei East and AMA Pro SunTrust Moto-GT.
AMA Pro Racing is the premier professional motorcycle racing organization in North America, operating a full schedule of events and championships for a variety of motorcycle disciplines. From its Daytona Beach headquarters, the organization operates and manages AMA Pro Road Racing, which includes AMA Pro American Superbike, AMA Pro Daytona SportBike, AMA Pro SuperSport and AMA Pro SunTrust Moto-GT. AMA Pro Racing also manages and works closely with the day-to-day operational organizations of the AMA Pro Flat Track Championship and the AMA Pro Supermoto Championship Series in addition to other two-wheel and ATV series. Learn more about AMA Pro Racing at www.amaproracing.com.
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Jscott
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pic

http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2009 /07/15/the-buell
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool, can't wait to see it run!
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Rde48
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So they talk about Knapp running one but how about Shawn???

He is the one that has been out there running the stock 1125r in superbike the whole season I think he should be the first to run the new bike in superbike.
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Jscott
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Better

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=37323
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Socalbueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like Knapp has more money than Shawn. After all Buell doesn't have a race team, they just support privateers. I bet Shawn could ride one too if he has 40k for another bike.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess we all need to send Shawn another PayPal donation!
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Jscott
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They've already started the complaining.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Jul/090715d.ht m
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So the import "factory superbikes" are running stock exhausts, brakes, cams, and rocker arms? If so, they have a legitimate beef. If not, quitchyurbitchen.

And by "stock" I mean really stock... what I would get if I went to my local Honda dealer in Middletown Ohio and ordered a part off the shelf under my own name...

Cool looking bike! Give em heck Knapp. I hope Shawn gets a go with whatever he wants to run as well... if it's a money thing, I'll kick in a little more to get Shawn on an 1125RR...
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has Superbikeplanet EVER had a REMOTELY favorable comment about Buell in ANY way? Holy crap.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like Knapp has more money than Shawn.

Do you think Knapp really dropped $40 large on the 125RR? I suspect not. Why would he do this when he is the leading privateer in Superbike on his Gixxer?
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Elvis
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great news!!!

Superbikeplanet is, once again, just illustrating their ignorance.

Is Mat Mladin's bike street legal?

Of course not. It doesn't have lights. It doesn't have turn-signals, it has a race muffler and trick engine components that have not passed EPA noise and pollution testing.

It appears that all Buell is doing is offering a race-prepped 1125R that has been modified in ways allowed by AMA Superbike rules (Just like Rockstar Makita has modified Mladin's bike).

If Superbike Planet's ignorance and prejudice wasn't obvious before, it certainly is now.
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Swampdog225
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder what the dyno numbers on this beast are going to be. I highly doubt if BMC or the MoCo would go the trouble of developing a platform to be released to the world press unless it is a world beater. Given the PERCEIVED failures of the XBRR and the media scrutiny that the 1125R has already been under, one can only assume that we will see a significant boost in power that will put in on par with the IL4s in the Superbike class.

We can only wait and see what happens this weekend.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know the built Helicon in Canadian superbike was putting out over 150RWHP--last year. Considering that the DSB 1125r reportedly puts down 150RWHP (without breaking the cases,) I think we might be very impressed with the 1125RR power.

(Message edited by fresnobuell on July 15, 2009)
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How do you send them a email???? What morons.... If the aftermarket gets a hold of the Buell like they have for years and years the big four then Buell wouldn't have to be building one off parts to make this bike compare to say... Mladins
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>I wonder what the dyno numbers on this beast are going to be.

They are impressive.

This has been in the works for sometime and I think the debut should be very interesting.

It's nice to see this in the daylight since some folks have had considerable difficult warranting the confidentiality they were entrusted with.

I read the RRW article. I find it tough to believe any sanctioning body would allow Buell to do anything they would not allow the others to do. You could get away with that once and your credibility would be shot. Sour grapes.

If you are in the area, get out to see this. The bikes been ready for a while, testing took place recently and the riding deal was stuck.

It should be a great show.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

By the way . . . not only are the dyno numbers impressive, so are a couple other things. You'll enjoy this bike.
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Jscott
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Swampdog225
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I certainly hope so. With all of the morons whining about the 1125R in DSB, and the perception that we don't compete in the Superbike class, this should bring a considerable amount of attention to Buell in general. This could be a good thing, hopefully.
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Swampdog225
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One can only assume that the benchmark for this bike was set solely on the the only other twin running in the class. Outside of the other twin, there are no other currently approved V-twins to compare it to.

Court, you didn't or wouldn't say any exact numbers. So is it safe to assume that comparisons can be made to the other twin in the class?

Bear in mind I understand that there are confidentiality issues that may prevent you from answering this, so I won't be offended if you don't answer.

Man this is exciting!!!
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Schmitty
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's another:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Jul/090715e.ht m

Schmitty
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Court, you didn't or wouldn't say any exact numbers.

I'm not at liberty to say until some folks return to the USA Friday.

It will, I assure you, be an exciting program.
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Swampdog225
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is my post on Motorcycle USA...

Concerning the rules, the 1125RR is playing by the same rules as the other twins in the class. They have very clearly defined engine modifications that are allowed for both the V-twins and the IL4s racing in the class. The bike is derived from a production unit, just as the IL4s are. You can believe with all certainty that you cannot walk into any Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki or Honda dealership and buy the bike that is raced in AMA Superbike. The Ducati 1098R is probably the closest that anyone can possibly get to AMA Superbike threads out of the showroom floor.

Buell is doing nothing more than building a race machine that the privateer can purchase directly from the Race Dept. Just as Enrion, Jordan or Rockstar Makita has done.

This is being blown into a big deal because its perceived that Buell is given unfair advantages.

The whine at the beginning of the season has been that they shouldn't be allowed to race in DSB. Now that they are not winning every race, that has quieted down.

I'm thoroughly convinced that there will never be widespread acceptance of Buell in any class other than a twins class.

God forbid that they blow the competition away this weekend.

I only hope that the general public read the rule book a little more before you spout off about how Buell is cheating.
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Redbuelljunkie
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm astounded by the amount of venom out there...

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php? t=183672

... it's almost frightening.
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Dsmcg
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hopefully the weather will behave itself here in scenic Ohio.

I realize everyone here is prepared for Bad Weather.....we just do not want to see any derail the race schedule.

See you there.

DSMcG
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm astounded by the amount of venom out there...

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php? t=183672

... it's almost frightening.


F those ignorant pricks. Do they think they can go out and buy ANY of the bikes on the Superbike grid (or DSB grid for that matter)?!?!?!?

The 1125r IS homologated. The only difference here is that Buell is building the bike rather than handing all the parts to a race team and having the race team build the bike. AND unlike the other manufacturers, Buell WILL make the RR parts available to the general public (with race license of course.)

The bike is legal according to the class rules. What else do they want to bitch about?

It astounds me that the general AMERICAN public is not pulling for Buell.
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Benm2
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What's the issue? Does the 1125RR comply with the remainder of the American Superbike rules? Then it is, in fact, no different than Richie Rich paying the local race shop to fit out the bike. The only difference I can see is: no street parts to throw away (or sell on ebay). From what I can see, it seems to be built to the rules already existing in the class.

As someone else stated above, if Superbikeplanet had any credibility left, their latest "editorial" has thrown the remainder out. Dean didn't go to grade school with Erik, did he? Is there some 4th-grade girlfriend issue at work here?
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interesting that the Aprila crowd has already dismissed the Buell as not having a chance . . . how, I wonder aloud . . . would they explain Shawn's performance on what is essentially a showroom 1125R?
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Rsh
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is more internet talk. On the Wera board John Ulrich says "the word I got was Buell wanted to homologate the parts, they were instructed that they had to build a complete ready to go bike instead. No idea why."

(Message edited by rsh on July 15, 2009)
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