| Author | Message | ||
     Jscott |
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=35747 | ||
| Slaughter |
Interesting seeing DuHamel on a Suzuki! That's gotta hurt just a little. (Message edited by slaughter on March 04, 2009) | ||
| Jscott |
...and people thought Kevin Erion whined alot about the XBRR and it was 5 seconds off pace. I think I can hear him in Ohio. | ||
| Court |
It gets better . . . he was also the FASTEST in the speed traps. Speeds and lap times are right there with the factory bikes. GO BUELL RACING! For details see roadracingworld.com | ||
| Davegess |
Barney was only 15th and Chaz Davies on the Aprilla was 21 so the big twins are not overwhelmingly faster than th e600 4's. Isn't there some sort of HP and weight thing going on to try and even these bikes out? | ||
| Jscott |
It would be interesting to see how Danny could do against the Factory Superbikes also. I think the 1125r would have some pretty respectable times. | ||
| P_squared |
1:49.491 That would be 0.227 seconds FASTER than the next rider/bike/team Way to go Danny & Buell Racing! | ||
| Anonymous |
The formula to make the bikes equal seems to be working pretty well. This practice session is a story of Danny and his style with the tires. He is riding the 1125R like a flat track bike through the infield. No one else like it. Insane. Also he got multiple tows off a string of bikes on his fastest lap. It's looking fun! | ||
| Jscott |
http://cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2009/03/ 04/eslick-fast-on-buell | ||
| Davegess |
It would be interesting to see how Danny could do against the Factory Superbikes also. I think the 1125r would have some pretty respectable times The Factory superbikes are about 10 seconds a lap faster BUT they are heavily modified compared to this class. Danny must be flying. It would be interesting to see what his lap times look like when he string togeteher 10 or 20 laps on race tires. | ||
| Jscott |
Part of those ten seconds per lap are due to the fact that they are using the 2.95-mile course. The class Eslick is participating in is running the 3.51-mile course. | ||
| Amafan |
The Superbikes are racing on the 2.95 mile layout ,and the Daytona Sportbikes are racing on the 3.51 mile layout at Daytona . The top speed today on a Superbike was 199.9 mph by Larry Pegram on a Ducati 1098R ,and 199.9 mph by Blake Young on a Suzuki GSXR 1000 , and Danny Eslick's top speed on the Buell 1125R was only 181 mph almost 20 mph slower than the Superbikes . | ||
| Bads1 |
Barney is back a bit. I wonder if his injury is bothering him or if hes ok??? | ||
| Jscott |
Here are the trap speeds from the December test... 1. Neil Hodgson (Hon CBR1000RR), 1:38.535, 192.666 mph 2. Ben Bostrom (Yam YZF-R1), 1:39.893, 183.915 mph 3. Larry Pegram (Duc 1098 R), 1:40.060, 188.702 mph 4. Josh Hayes (Yam YZF-R1), 1:40.766, 187.443 mph 5. Chris Ulrich (Suz GSX-R1000), 1:41.166, 188.940 mph 6. Jeremy McWilliams (Buell 1125R), 1:44.051, 165.375 mph I think Eslick could be fairly competitive. | ||
| Bads1 |
With the times he's running right now he's 25-30mph off those trap speeds. | ||
| Amafan |
They have a big tail wind at Daytona today that is why all the top speeds or way up from the December test . | ||
| Kenneth |
Well, Josh Day's Supersport 600 is running laps that would put him around 20th in Superbike qualifying. The formula extreme bikes and supersport bikes usually run similar times. | ||
| Eboos |
It is so hard not to have very high hopes right now. | ||
| Endoman33 |
good to see the race guys on top, good job keep it | ||
| Xb984r |
"Not only did the 1125R clock the fastest lap, it also had one of the fastest trap speeds. Eslick wasn't aware of the speed, but said of the Buell, "It's got big legs on it." It helps that the Buell 1125R's get a 20 pounds weight allowance not afforded to other V-twins." I wonder why the Buell gets this advantage,if its true?Sorry just not impressed with a 1125cc bike going against 600's,I can just hear the comments on other motorcycle boards. | ||
| Dentguy |
If the 1125 starts to spank the 600's, the class rules will likely change. | ||
| Anonymous |
Of course there will be Buell bashing. Why would that change? Especially with journalists and publications who choose to hate a tiny American company going up against the giants. That's what happens when you don't have a big ad budget, I guess. DMG is just trying the rules while they see how the match up turns out. After checking bike weights and lap times during the December tire test the AMA made a few changes. If any brand dominates, they'll be penalized with weight or other changes after the first couple of races. Every manufacturer got special tweaks they requested. If you do the research you can find them. Aprilia got a bunch of powertrain allowances that take the RSV to near Superbike spec in power, but not a weight break. The Japanese factory bikes are also more trick than you think, and I think that will show on race day. BTW, none of the Buells are at the weight they are allowed, and the engines are bone stock except for pipe and EFI programming. Danny put in a stunning one-off flyer lap pulling a draft off multiple bikes while he was doing it, and that's how it goes. Prior to that he was 5th fastest, and where he was fast was in the infield. There are six Buells in the race and the next fastest is in 15th, with a matching bike to Danny's. So was the magazine comment appropriate, or a cheap shot? You be the judge. | ||
| Court |
>>>>and the engines are bone stock except for pipe and EFI programming. That party I knew and it, frankly, is the part that impresses me the most. The 1125R's at Daytona are darn close to what you can buy off the showroom floor. COOL BEANS! | ||
| Bads1 |
Higbee's times as of today. http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=35752 | ||
| Amafan |
Eslick was the only rider to have more than 1 lap in the 1:49s ,and he had 4 of them so it was no draft fluke . | ||
| Sd26 |
If the 1125 starts to spank the 600's, the class rules will likely change. I agree. But it would have to be shown that all the 1125's have a substantial advantage. Then the AMA could mandate a restrictor or something if they desired. But I don't see that happening right yet. And, we're only in the first session. Not to mention, the race is 200 miles. A lot happens in this race. Will be very interesting. So far, as I suspected from the beginning when I heard the formula in July of 2007 I think this is going to be great for motorcycle racing. I'm a Barney fan. So, I want him to go run down Eslick, though. LOL! | ||
| Bads1 |
I'm curious to how Miguel will do on the GSXR. Very excited to see how this race pans out. | ||
| Court |
>>>If the 1125 starts to spank the 600's, the class rules will likely change. Cool . . .they always do. It's the way sanctioning bodies strive to make the playing field as level as possible. Good on them. >>>So was the magazine comment appropriate, or a cheap shot? The magazine comment was a cheap shot but I'm hoping TEAM BUELL stays focused on the objective. Magazines have, over the years, like to take out some of their little Harley-Davidson pokes on Buell so as not to risk their next test bike . . . . the small mind plays in that arena. . . . I want to see Buell simply doing the best they can and making fools out of these guys. | ||
| Jscott |
http://superbikeplanet.com/2009/Mar/090304d2006a.h tm "Session ended on a red flag with less than ten minutes left. DiSalvo was fastest for most of the session. Big twins pulled very big top speed numbers but were unable to dominate. Eslick seemed to be able to pass Bostrom et al with ease." | ||
| Anonymous |
The most impressive thing was Eslick's split time in the infield. AMAproracing.com gives complete practice times, including splits and trap speeds. Section 2 is from the exit of turn 1 through all the infield corners. Eslick had one of the fastest times there, within a tenth or so of the fastest. He and the 1125 were flat out working. |
