G oog le BadWeB | Login/out | Topics | Search | Custodians | Register | Edit Profile


Buell Motorcycle Forum » Buell RACING & More » Racing - Circuit/Road Racing » Archive through August 06, 2008 » Would I benefit changing to clip-on bars? « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

V8killr
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So this year is my rookie year at the track. I’m currently running an 03 XB9R. I have not entered a CCS race yet. However, my plans are to do the two remaining events at Blackhawk.

Being a rook, I still have a good amount of things to work on. My body positioning is one of the things I’d like to improve. I’m a tall guy at around 6’3” and 205 lbs. I was wondering if clip-on bars would help me to get into a better posture. If so, which bars would every one recommend?

Thanks,
Jason
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Carparts009
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jason I don't know if clip-ons will help your positioning but if you do decide to get some I'd buy Woodcraft, they make awesome stuff.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

V8killr
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Carparts009
Thanks for the suggestion.

In regards to positioning, let me give some additional information. I’m thinking clip-on I need to get low onto the tank. As I ride now, I’m too stand up.

Thanks,
Jason
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Carparts009
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clip-ons should give you the ability to adjust the height of the bars so you can get lower. I can definitely see what you're talking about when you say that you're too upright, but you don't exactly have a lot of room to tuck given your height and the bike.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Xbcrazy
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Jason,

Woodcraft clip-ons should help you improve your positioning on the bike. While I'm not as tall as you are, I have been using them for the last three seasons.

I am also a Woodcraft dealer and can get them for you.

Thanks, Pete
GrandStand Designs
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rocketsprink
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

slide your ass back, even up on the seat cowl will hep your tuck as well.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Hurricaneleah
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I have run both clip ons and stock. The clip-ons you can run lower for sure and they feel pretty good, but you may deal with some interference issues with both the stock style upper (it has to be trimmed) and the frame itself....you end up having to run the bars pretty wide to get frame clearance lock to lock, and god help your thumbs if you get in a tank slapper. On the plus side, i prefer the lower position and slightly more angled bars, and the bars themselves are very easy to replace if needed. I run the woodcraft clip ons and they are beautifully machined and a nice quality piece. If you are running the original 2003 41mm forks from 2003, you will have issues running clip ons as the fork tube is tapered in just past the trip tree clamp area, going from a 54mm O.D. to about 50mm o.d. I made tapered spacers for my bike to run the clip ons with the 41mm forks. The later 43mm forks and the 47mm 1125R forks have a straight taper, so this isn't an issue on them.

On our endurance bike, we are running the stock bars and they are a little more comfortable possible at the expense of some front end feedback, but long story short, the stock triple/bars work well on a race track for me (5'10").

Good luck!

WFO
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Schmitty
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm racing a 2005 XB9R, and I'm 6'1" and 185#. I don't have a problem tucking in. I did find that it makes things easier if I slide all the way back, and I've even been putting my ass on top of the seat cowl like Rocketsprink said. James Gang racing uses the stock setup as well. Paul James is well over 6' tall, and it's awfully hard to argue with his results!!

The other question I have is which type of windscreen are you running. If your screen is not tall enough it can give you the illusion that you are not tucked in all the way. I'm running the Zero Gravity ST series, and I have more than enough bubble to tuck behind even if I get a little sloppy.

If you do decide to race the last two Blackhawk rounds be sure to stop out in Buell Alley and introduce yourself. The guys out there are the best, and they are always willing to help. The information you can gain from their knowledge base is priceless!

Schmitty
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

V8killr
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks all for the good information!!!

Schmitty,
To answer your question regarding windscreen, I'm running an 1125 fairing. In fact, I had to tip the fairing it to make room for my adaptor plates that jump from the XB fairing bracket to the 1125 fairing. In the end, it was all worth in because I feel much more comfortable behind it then the XBR fairing.

Here are some pictures at Road A...that will help in seeing my positioning:







« Previous Next »

Add Your Message Here
Post:
Bold text Italics Underline Create a hyperlink Insert a clipart image

Username: Posting Information:
This is a public posting area. Enter your username and password if you have an account. Otherwise, enter your full name as your username and leave the password blank. Your e-mail address is optional.
Password:
E-mail:
Options: Post as "Anonymous" (Valid reason required. Abusers will be exposed. If unsure, ask.)
Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message
Action:

Topics | Last Day | Tree View | Search | User List | Help/Instructions | Rules | Program Credits Administration