| Author | Message | ||
     Buelldyno_guy |
H-D Buell of Vallejo or Vallejo Performance Services is planning on being there on our small bike, but using a new larger, class limit motor. Shawn earned points in the class during the Sonoma round, so all we needed was new cylinders, heads and some Dyno time. We have a AFM "Open Twins" race the week before so it will be a great tune-up weekend. ... Please stop past and say Hi, we will be the little guys pitting somewhere in the South Forty and using the trickiest starter you have ever seen. ... Terry | ||
| Jimidan |
Er ah, why aren't you guys using the XBRR? Jimidan | ||
| Diablobrian |
What are you using for a starter? | ||
| Ebear |
Schedule for Seca..!! 27, 2006 From a Press Release Red Bull U.S. Grand Prix & AMA Superbike Round 7 Event Schedule Friday, July 21 8:00 - 8:35 a.m., Practice: Lockhart Phillips USA Formula Xtreme 8:45 - 9:30 a.m., Practice: AMA Superbike presented by Parts Unlimited 10:00 - 11:00 a.m., Free Practice 1: MotoGP World Championship 11:15 - 11:45 a.m., Practice: AMA Pro Honda Supersport presented by Shoei 11:50 a.m. - 12:30 p.m., Track Crossing: Start/Finish & Dunlop Tire Bridge 12:30 - 1:30 p.m., Lunch 2:00 - 3:00 p.m., Free Practice 2: MotoGP World Championship 3:15 - 3:50 p.m., Practice: AMA Repsol Lubricants Superstock 4:00 - 4:30 p.m., Qualifying: Lockhart Phillips USA Formula Xtreme 4:30 - 5:00 p.m., Track Crossing: Start/Finish & Dunlop Tire Bridge Saturday, July 22 8:15 - 8:45 a.m., Qualifying: AMA Repsol Lubricants Superstock 8:55 - 9:30 a.m., Qualifying: AMA Pro Honda Lubricants Supersport presented by Shoei 10:00 - 11:00 a.m., Free Practice 3: MotoGP World Championship 11:15 - 11:45 a.m., Qualifying: AMA Superbike presented by Parts Unlimited 11:55 a.m. - 12:30 p.m., Track Crossing: Start/Finish & Dunlop Tire Bridge 12:30 - 1:30 p.m., Lunch 2:00 - 3:00 p.m., Qualifying Practice: MotoGP World Championship 3:20 - 3:45 p.m., RACE: Lockhart Phillips Formula Xtreme (15 laps) 4:15 - 5:00 p.m., RACE: AMA Superbike presented by Parts Unlimited (100k - 28 laps) 5:20 - 6:30 p.m., Track Crossing: Start/Finish & Dunlop Tire Bridge Sunday, July 23 8:00 - 8:50 a.m., Track Crossing: Start/Finish & Dunlop Tire Bridge 8:55 - 9:15 a.m., Warm-Up: AMA Pro Honda Oils Supersport presented by Shoei 9:25 - 9:45 a.m., Warm-Up: AMA Repsol Lubricants Superstock 10:00 - 10:20 a.m., Warm-Up: MotoGP World Championship 10:55 - 11:25 a.m., RACE: AMA Pro Honda Oils Supersport presented by Shoei (17 laps) 11:30 a.m.- 12:30 p.m., Track Crossing: Start/Finish & Dunlop Tire Bridge 12:30 - 1:30 p.m., Lunch 2:00 p.m., RACE: MotoGP World Championship 3:30 - 4:30 p.m., RACE: AMA Repsol Lubricants Superstock (17 laps) | ||
| Buelldyno_guy |
The RR was only ours for the one race. ... It's an single front wheel contact starter. It uses a Honda 9 hp engine and has a custom exhaust, Sporster tank, and ape hangers. | ||
| Jima4media |
Terry, Best of luck to you, Shawn, and Vallejo Performance Services. Jim | ||
| Jimidan |
Buelldyno guy sez: "The RR was only ours for the one race. ..." Hmmm, you mean it was like a "factory" owned bike that they loaned your dealership for the one race? | ||
| Anonymous |
It was one owned by another dealer who couldn't make it out there. It was actually the bike from the German team. It had been on hold in the US pending fixing the Daytona problems, and they wanted to have it run before it was shipped to them. | ||
| M1combat |
You really need to start approaching this subject from the right direction Jim... | ||
| Buellitics |
"Er ah, why aren't you guys using the XBRR?" Maybe they wanted to actually finish the race?? The German team wasn't able to take it yet because they had to scour the countryside around Munich in order to find some old Messerschmitt engines left over from ze var to melt down for their crankcases. When are you anonymous guys gonna come clean that the bikes at Daytona were BMC owned prototypes? I wonder how happy these teams' sponsors are that they aren't getting exposure for 1/2 the season now? | ||
| Anonymous |
Buellitic trollboy, go back to import land, OK? We're not going to come clean because we already are clean. Tthey weren't "Buell owned prototypes". The bikes were sold and ownership transferred prior to Daytona. Unfortunately they had issues, which have been fixed. And as far as finishing a race is concerned, Shawn got his points to qualify for Laguna from finishing Infineon on an XBRR. BTW, the sponsors are delighted because we already got them more pages of exposure than they expected all year. Troll elsewhere. | ||
| Soloyosh |
A couple XBRRs have finished in FX this year... Not a peep from Kevin Erion... | ||
| Jimidan |
M1combat sez: "You really need to start approaching this subject from the right direction Jim..." ...and which direction would that be in?  Jimi | ||
| Jimidan |
Anony sez: "It was one owned by another dealer who couldn't make it out there. It was actually the bike from the German team. It had been on hold in the US pending fixing the Daytona problems, and they wanted to have it run before it was shipped to them." That's cool...just askin". I am glad he didn't wad it for them. What would have happened if he had? I have always heard to never loan your racebike to a friend at the track...you will lose your racebike AND your friend. jimidan | ||
| Jimidan |
Soloyosh sez: "A couple XBRRs have finished in FX this year... Not a peep from Kevin Erion..." I would bet that as long as the XBRRs are back in the pack, you won't hear a peep out of Kevin Erion. He certainly has enough sense to pick his battles wisely. If someone podiums the XBRR someday, then you will here him squeal like Ned Beatty with his pants down trying to climb a hill side. I think that will be very interesting to watch, but hey, I'm from KY (like Ned). jimidan | ||
| M1combat |
You mean "from" right? Well first of all Jim... Your question wasn't really a question. It was a statement made to imply what you believed was fact. You were implying that BMC owned the bikes and that it was all a "factory" effort and that there's a cover up going on somehow. My point was that your theory doesn't really seem to be the case. I was pointing out the fact that if you were to approach the issue from the direction that I do... Maybe you'd come up with the right answers. See, you start from your side and as SOON as you find an explanation for something that seems to make half of a lick of sense you stop thinking and start typing. That in and of itself is OK I guess, but if you were to start from my end you would have come to the conclusion that Anony gave (well, that and if you read more of the board you would have read the last time anony said that too  ). Try to be more pragmatic maybe? It just seems that your philosophy on the subject is "I smell a rat and I'll keep digging 'till I find it no matter what." Well... I don't smell anything and my nose works just fine... | ||
| Jimidan |
Buellitics sez: ""Er ah, why aren't you guys using the XBRR?" Maybe they wanted to actually finish the race?? The German team wasn't able to take it yet because they had to scour the countryside around Munich in order to find some old Messerschmitt engines left over from ze var to melt down for their crankcases. When are you anonymous guys gonna come clean that the bikes at Daytona were BMC owned prototypes? I wonder how happy these teams' sponsors are that they aren't getting exposure for 1/2 the season now?" Jimi: The XBRRs have been finishing all kinds of races lately...obviously, you haven't been keeping up with current events. I don't believe that reliability is an issue here...it is a matter of money, or lack of money. HD has chosen not to get up off of any to support the teams that want to compete in Buell XBRR FX race program. This is despite HD supporting a million plus dollar race team for its dirt track rider, Rich King, to ride a Honda 450! Now that makes a lot of sense! NOT. I know they are delivering the XBRRs to the various dealerships who purchased them as we speak. I will be looking forward to watching these teams compete in the near future...if they can find some money. "...some old Messerschmitt engines left over from ze var to melt down for their crankcases." Really!  jimidan | ||
| Bigdaddy |
Dude, I see what's wrong here! The old Messerschmitt parts are more easily found in Augsburg/Gablingen. There's a great big horizontal rhombic antenna and underneath it is a bunch of WWII tunnels. They should've call me  G2 | ||
| Soloyosh |
Jimidan sez: I would bet that as long as the XBRRs are back in the pack, you won't hear a peep out of Kevin Erion. He certainly has enough sense to pick his battles wisely. If someone podiums the XBRR someday, then you will here him squeal like Ned Beatty with his pants down trying to climb a hill side. I see what you're saying but the fact that he hasn't said anything may lend more ammo to Buell. "Weve finished a couple races with the same bike, now you protest because were a threat?" Precedence... Cheers Brett | ||
| Anonymous |
We're getting a visitor named Jeremy at Laguna! http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=158664&post=686580#PO ST686580 | ||
| Jimidan |
Brett sez: "I see what you're saying but the fact that he hasn't said anything may lend more ammo to Buell. "Weve finished a couple races with the same bike, now you protest because were a threat?" Precedence... Cheers Brett" I agree, but really, the guy doesn't have a case anyway...even if he had made it a Daytona. The AMA has already approved the Buell XBRR...what more can be said? What really is there to protest? jimidan | ||
| Jscott |
The XBRR is exactly the bike needed for Formula Xtreme. As is the Triumph 675, Duc 749, Duc ss1000, Moto Guzzi MGS-01, NCR Millona, and many others. Just like John Ulrich said, lets put the "formula" back in Formula Xtreme. Kevin Erion can kiss our butts!! Speaking of the NCR Millona, look and see which ex-VR1000 pilot is campaigning WERA on one. http://www.ducshop.com/pr28.php | ||
| Court |
>>>What really is there to protest?
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| Jimidan |
M1combat sez: "You mean "from" right?" Jimi: Naw, I mean "in", like if I was heading in the "right" direction...look as far ahead through the corner as you can. There is a reason why there are no mirrors on a race bike. M1 sez: "Well first of all Jim... Your question wasn't really a question. It was a statement made to imply what you believed was fact. You were implying that BMC owned the bikes and that it was all a "factory" effort and that there's a cover up going on somehow." Jimi: Well, first of all, it WAS a question...so the rest of your statement is speculation, but not too far off really. I accept the premise that legally, these prototype bikes did belong to the "privateer teams", but there were numerous inconsistencies in the tea leaves that spelled "factory" involvement. There still are, but we have argued that point ad nauseum. Just check out the sponsor list of the Warr's bike and I think you will see what I mean. But hey, that is cool, I am just glad the MoCo was finally goaded into getting up off of some more money...mo' money is good! Maybe they were reading some of my posts! Maybe Erik went back to them like Jeremy suggested...I don't know! I am just glad he will be back at Laguna. M1 sez: "It just seems that your philosophy on the subject is "I smell a rat and I'll keep digging 'till I find it no matter what." Well... I don't smell anything and my nose works just fine..." Jimi: Really? (Is that a question?) I think your analogy stinks!  I think I am a skeptic by nature (having been a criminal investigator in my previous incarnation), and I have a pretty good nose for it too. I simply look at inconsistencies, as does Brett and others. You seem to be more like a cheerleader, which works for me. This site needs cheerleaders and skeptics to keep it interesting...and amusing (which is more my slant than anything else). If it stops being amusing then why even log on? I have been told to treat what you hear on the internet with a grain of salt. . . there is much inaccurate and incomplete information. I think that is wise advice. jimidan | ||
| Jimidan |
Court sez: ">>>What really is there to protest? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: Absolutely nothing. . . uh-huh Edwin Starr - 1907" Exactly. Let them eat cake! ...and welcome home Court! Jimidan | ||
| Blake |
Did you all see the recent statement lifted from Buell.com by anony? The factory is helping to support the Warr's effort with Jeremy McWilliams at Laguna Seca. Nice to have BadWeB's Bueller of the Year back on board. We missed you Court. | ||
| Court |
>>>>The factory is helping to support the Warr's effort with Jeremy McWilliams at Laguna Seca. That's an accurate statement. In typical frickin' Buell fashion when several folks saw the same goal, everybody pulled together to collaborate in anyway that it took to round up the necessary resources. If you are even thinking about coming up with some "what will dealer teams think about competing with the factory" you window of opportunity long ago slammed shut. The means and methods you may expect to see from Buell racing will be as innovative and functional as the motorcycles. See ya at the races. P.S. - If anyone knows of a good venue where some interesting folks could gather, eat dinner and visit on Saturday (7-22-06) drop me a note....I've rounded, and am rounding, up some pretty fun guests I think you'd enjoy meeting and visiting with. Drop me a note | ||
| Jscott |
http://www.motoczysz.com/ Motoczysz (one of these days I'll be able to spell his name first go) is gearing up for a Laguna Seca release of his new Race bike. Still unclear as to what series it will be entered in. I believe it will have a 600cc motor. Laguna should be very exciting this year. | ||
| Blake |
Lots of teams compete against full factory and factory supported efforts in the AMA. Not sure why anyone would begrudge Buell the opportunity to lend additional support to any team. I sure don't. It sure would be great to also see Mike Cicotto race the Hal's machine at Laguna Seca. Any news on whether they will be joining in on the fun or not? Ditto for Dealy's/Crevier? Motoczysz hasn't produced their GP bike yet, now they are doing a 600cc machine? I'll be holding off on my excitement until I see it line up on the racing grid. | ||
| Xlcr |
'Release', my aching butt! It will be a static display of his new 'race bike'. Nothing whatsoever about when or where it will actually be raced. And of course, at the end of the press release was the usual blurb about "investment opportunities". Honestly, if Kenny Dreer couldn't find someone with $10 million to back a venture that actually had a chance of making money, does anyone really think someone is going to come forward for the "opportunity" of throwing away god knows how many millions of dollars on a racing effort that won't make a dime, that on the contrary will eat up money at a staggering rate without even the promise of winning a race? | ||
| Jscott |
His 1st bike (proof of concept) did make a 2 lap parade at last years Laguna Seca MotoGP.  I am not holding my breath either, but I certainly wish him well along with Mr. Fischer and anyone else with the dream of making another American sport bike. | ||
| Captpete |
Motoczysz I’d rather se ‘em get some out running around on the street and then think about racing them. As a prospective customer (with no money), they don’t have to do any racing for me to want one. And besides, it might be useful to see what breaks or falls off of the things in street service before they go racing.  | ||
| Soloyosh |
Blake, I think the entry deadline for Laguna has come and gone. If Mike's not in the listed riders, he ain't riding I am afraid. Cheers Brett |
