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Mark_weiss
Posted on Sunday, June 30, 2019 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's over 100 here and I'm getting some detonation when accelerating into freeway traffic and occasionally when making a lane change. I'd have an '08 so everything is ECU controlled. I have used Tuner Pro to make idle speed and fan control changes, but don't know which of the many timing maps to adjust.

Any hints?
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, June 30, 2019 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Brucespoint
Posted on Sunday, June 30, 2019 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Built a 76 Datsun King cab Prerunner to play with in Baja Norte,USA. "built", dead stock 280Z engine, 7 to 1 Compression, as to haul ass Up Grades w/Load, Never get tickets that Way, & CHP are Sharks. Up to 3/4 ton one trip, broke a U-joint hitting bump out corner going up to Grapevine from Coast, Grapevine all the way up, going south, 85-95 mph, getting cooler the faster it went, what I build'em for. Never ANY detonation, ever, Still ticking over Quietly, as soon as fired up. The Point= Runs on PEMEX doing All of that, pedal to the metal, never a hiccup Yet, lifelong. Built. In Coming Hot Weather, a way to drop compression a few points, will be very, very, handy, fuell situation & all.
Base Gasket/Head Gasket, Whatever it takes to keep it Thumping On, any Fuel Available, home grown, or Not. H-D, Curse it's name, has the past art needed.
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Portero72
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2019 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dude.

This and your other recent posts have me thinking someone should check on your well being.

Love you, brah!
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Teeps
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2019 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe you got some bad fuel?
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2019 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With such a long stroke and high compression mine also pings in hot weather. Quality of fuel is huge. We have stations that have both 91 and 93 octane. I always try and get 93. I wish we could get ethanol free fuel but in the corn belt it's nearly impossible.

I do find if I down shift and run higher rpm's it's less likely to ping. I know ecmspy will allow me to change the timing so I'm sure something like Tuner Pro would allow it too.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2019 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think someone here posted that they had good luck putting a couple of 12V computer fans in the oil cooler.
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Brucespoint
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2019 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Portero72,
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2019 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Sagehawk
Posted on Tuesday, July 02, 2019 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wanted to ask , tootal, are you still running the xb9 gearing? Is that enough rpm as well for your 06 to spin up?
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Tootal
Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, I love the XB9 gearing as it definitely pulls harder out of the corners and is slightly less likely to ping due to the higher rpm's.
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tootal, Any plans to use the one wheel trailer with the Uly?
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Tootal
Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nope! I have a set of Helen 2 Wheels bags I use for long trips. I don't notice the UniGo trailer behind the Harley, it has so much torque. I think behind the Uly I would definitely feel it. Here's the "Helen 2 wheels" bags on the Uly.



The upper bag is waterproof and has sleeping bags and camping equipment. The lower bag is breathable and had the tent and anything that water won't hurt. The bags have a band that runs along the length which is sewed in several places so any straps going through them will not allow the bags to go sideways. Works like a charm!





Gee, this thread got hijacked!
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was wondering if you thought it would induce ping towing it. Let me put the train back on the tracks.

Mark_weiss, Is it a stock ECM?
Have you thought about trying one of IDE's after market tunes?
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Mark_weiss
Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have both a stock ECM and an IDE box. In either case I've got the same issue. The pinging is not extreme and can be worked around, but I'd like to not have to work around about it every ride until fall.
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mix in some race fuel? Or add a second base gasket.
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Brucespoint
Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Done here froggy.
delete post please.
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Mark_weiss
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that adjusting the timing for the rest of the summer is probably easier than pulling the cylinders. I just need to know how it's done.
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