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Griffmeister
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2019 - 06:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quick question, does anyone know the socket size to use on the nut for the drive pulley?
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2019 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I "think" it is 1 7/8" with left hand threads.
WARNING: I am not positive as my info is from posts about tubers on here.
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Nillaice
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2019 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Nillaice
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2019 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

... I'd have to measure it, but around 2 inches sounds right
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Nillaice
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2019 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and reverse threaded IIRC
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Dualsportdad
Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1-7/8. you need a special holding tool to help insure you don't damage the transmission. it really helps to have the correct socket as well and it really hold the nut tight and makes using a tq wrench easier.

this is the tool i bought. https://www.ebay.com/itm/232901023976
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can make a tool for holding the pulley if you have part of a broken belt. That tool on ebay is the bee's knees.
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Griffmeister
Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys, I was checking my spare sockets and found one that had been ground flush on the end. It happened to be 1 7/8 inch so I guess thatís a positive ID. Usually Iíll grind a socket like that if it has to fully engage a thin nut or bolt head, and the pulley nut is fairly thin. Already been there once, but itís been too damn cold out to go outside and remove the belt guard just to check the size since I forgot what it was. I had also made a tool to hold the pulley out of a piece of scrap steel and two cut-off bolts. I just cut a crescent out of the steel to fit the pulley diameter and welded the bolts to the inside to match the cogs in the pulley. It grips the pulley well and I let it rest against the idler studs.

Not really doing anything to the bike, I just retired and was selling off some of my tools. Sold my 3/4 set to one of the younger bucks at work, but wanted to be sure I still had what I might need for the bike. The socket happened to be a spare one of fine bone china, which usually work well in a pinch and you donít mind grinding or cutting one up as much as you would a Snap-On.
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Tootal
Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2019 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Usually Iíll grind a socket like that if it has to fully engage a thin nut or bolt head, and the pulley nut is fairly thin.

I do the same. On a Harley the clutch shaft sticks way out so you have to use a very deep well socket. I took a regular socket and squared the end like you did and then parted the socket in half and welded some heavy pipe between the two. The Buell is so much easier!
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Kmbuell
Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2019 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The absolute best tool is from Kevin Drum, KD Fab. Used it today, while never easy, a bit of heat from a propane torch and a 4í pipe and it came right off. Reverse is correct. Not sure of the size because I have a special socket off eBay.
Kevin makes a great tool and itís quite reasonable.
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Griffmeister
Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2019 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And a 4í pipe... Like everyone says, piece of cake.
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2019 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I made a sprocket lock and used only a three foot pipe!
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2019 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm, equal amounts of torque yet your pipe is a foot shorter. What can we assume from this equation??
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2019 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gravity is worth 25% more there.
Lump of Tungsten under his house?
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2019 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Different pipe diameter?
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2019 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gravity.....you calling me fat? Lol

What if I was pulling it up?

Some times it is not the length of the pipe, but rather, how you use it!
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2019 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So you're saying you were pulling your shorter length pipe?


Kidding aside, I didn't find my countershaft nut to be too tight. I used a standard breakerbar.
(I took mine off because I thought my bearings were crapping out. Turned out my tires were terrible)
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 6 foot pipe. But to bring that out for such a small nut job.....
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Griffmeister
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Push-pull, repeat as necessary.
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Nillaice
Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

my dad has a pneumatic 3/4 impact gun, but my air compressor doesn't have the volume to run it
so I went and picked up a 3/4 to 1/2 drive adapter from HFT and ran the electric impact on it for seemingly for-ever, but it worked!
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Etennuly
Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to brag, but I have a 1" impact and plenty of air pressure from my 7.5 hp compressor to run it, I just cannot lift it to run it.

I have to hire people to run it or hang its mass from the tractor bucket.

It has some serious torque. Does big truck lug nuts with ease


Ok..... I may be bragging a bit.
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yalp
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Arry
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2019 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder if an impact driver, banging on the transmission, is such a good idea...?
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Griffmeister
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2019 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used a one inch electric impact driver to loosen the nut when I last did it. Yes, I did think it was a bad idea at the time, but the whole reason for doing it was because the transmission was already bad and I was taking everything apart. The nut is installed with high strength loctite so maybe heat would have helped. Going back together I made a tool to lock the pulley so that I could use a torque wrench, should be able to use it again if I ever have to take the nut off again.
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Shoggin
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2019 - 02:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes. Using an impact to put massive shock loads on the trans gears is a terrible, terrible, idea.

A little heat for the Loctite. a locking bar, a good socket, and a 24"' breaker bar.
You should be willing to purchase those tools, if you are willing to do that job.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2019 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The heat? I prefer an electric heat gun. Very controllable.
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