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Jhelm
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recently picked up a set of used Hepco Becker bags and hardware for my 2007 XB12X. The mounting holes under the seat donít line up. Are there different brackets for the X and XT? Or can you not put bags on the X model? Anyone else have experience with this dilemma? Any advice would be appreciated

Joe
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Mark_weiss
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are they a long way off, or just a bit? The mounts on my X required a bit of adjustment to fit.
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am pretty sure the brackets are different for the X vs XT. You can definitely put bags on the X. The X bags were different than the XT bags. The top case was different as well. I'm betting Foggy can tell you the exact difference and get you the correct part numbers.
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bags I know are interchangeable. You have to turn them around as the locking bracket is to the rear of the mounts on the X, and to the front on the XT.}

(Message edited by whisperstealth on November 25, 2018)
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Jhelm
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mark,
The rear mounting holes are a good 1" too far back.
Whisperstealth,
Thanks for the input. Maybe Froggy will chime in.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whisperstealth- I think you're mixing up the XP and the XT. The XP police bike version had different bags. AFAIK, the X and the XT had identical bags and brackets.

Jhelm- Have you got a copy of the original installation instructions so you can be sure you're installing them correctly? Here's a link to them in case you don't:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1713/7809/files/ J03578_en_US.blaiseULYSSES__TOP_CASE_AND_SIDE_CASE _KIT.pdf?3882394188370642893

If they're really 1" off they must be for a completely different bike.
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Jhelm
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hughlysses,
Thanks for the input. I do have the instruction sheet downloaded from St Paul HD site. Nothing I find online refers to different brackets for the X vs XT.

Joe
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bad, sorry for the mix up. Good thing somebody knows what they are talking about!
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Rays
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an '06 X that I fitted with the factory supplied HB bags, Top box & racks way back when.
I bought an '09 XT when HD pulled the pin and have transferred the racks from X to XT with no major fitment issues. From memory the R/H footrest mount is jiggly to fit but not impossible.
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Time for Foggy Facts. X and XT use the same racks. What may be the issue is that the tail section can settle, causing it to no longer line up. In that case, loosen the 4 bolts that connect the subframe to the frame, then try installing the brackets. You should then be able to lift the tail and line it all up.
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love Froggy Facts!
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Jhelm
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the update Froggy. I will take another swing at it.
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Portero72
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2018 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have owned 3 Ulys, and they all needed a bit of loosening and jiggling to line up. I usually have to loosen both passenger footpeg brackets and lightly seat every bolt before I start tightening it all down in sequence.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2018 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get the big hammer.

The racks are the same - as noted above - for X and XT. Those are the "junior" bags - the rounded ones with the silver panels.

The "outdoorsman" bags - squared off, all-black, textured finish - are the ones that have a different rack system with rear-facing latches.

But.

ALL Ulysses tail sections are identical. ALL mounting points are identical. ALL passenger peg brackets are identical. If if says "Ulysses" - regardless of X, XT, or XP - the brackets will fit the bike. But they're relatively small-gauge metal tubing, bolting to what is effectively a large aluminum diving board - some finesse and patience will be required. Don't tighten ANY bolts, until you have got ALL the bolts through their holes and gotten their nuts started.
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Tootal
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2018 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



I had to loosen a few things to get holes to line up also.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2018 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In 42,000 miles I never removed the racks on the XT for a reason. The racks on Lil Red were made specifically for Lil Red. Every time they are removed and put back on they have to be coaxed just a little. Those XBs breath and flex. They are alive. And don't get me started on temperature changes. You would think they were titanium and making passes at mach 3.5 .
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2018 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...and people wonder why they say not to run a topcase without the side racks in place....
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Big_island_rider
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2018 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"bolting to what is effectively a large aluminum diving board"

"I had to loosen a few things to get holes to line up also."

Two best comments I have seen on BadWeb in a while but for different reasons.
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Jhelm
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2018 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You guys do not lie. Loosened up the subframe and footpeg mount and all the holes aligned. Did not need the big hammer.

Thanks for the advise.
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