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Steveford
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was the power on the Guzzi comparable to the Ulysses?
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Pushr0d
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steve, the specs show 80hp/59 torques on a 505lb (wet) bike.

Sounds like the Uly would be more spry.
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Steveford
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know that dyno charts can be all over the place but I think the Guzzi might be pretty close despite the weight.
Having ridden a few Guzzis I know that they really get going once you spin the motor up a bit.
I'm going to guess that while the bikes are comparable in output the Guzzi will accelerate faster.
Neither one will terrify you, though.






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Mark_weiss
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2019 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/motorcycles/ future-vehicles/pan-america.html
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Steveford
Posted on Monday, November 11, 2019 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They got luggage on it, that's a real good thing.
Won't that dinky little front fender pack full of mud?
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Mark_weiss
Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2019 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks like electrically adjustable damping is an option for the forks, if not standard. No good views of the shock but Showa does make a set.
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147db
Posted on Friday, November 15, 2019 - 06:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No belt, no party.
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Pushr0d
Posted on Friday, November 15, 2019 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow - good point! When did HD last have a chain drive?

That being said, there's nothing wrong with an O-ring (or x-ring) chain. Sure - a chain is 'noisier', and you have to maintain it, but you don't have to worry about pebbles, and you can change it a lot easier and cheaper than a belt.
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1313
Posted on Friday, November 15, 2019 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When did HD last have a chain drive?

VR-1000?

The military bike?

Just guesses...
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, November 15, 2019 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think XLH bikes went over in 1990.
Big twins earlier than that I'm pretty sure.

Are those little 500 and 750 bikes belt drive?
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Mark_weiss
Posted on Friday, November 15, 2019 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, the XG line are all belt drive
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Biffdotorg
Posted on Monday, November 18, 2019 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So the latest HP numbers are in at around 145 and torque of 96 or so.

This sounds very competitive. Who knows if they will be able to keep it under $20K, I do doubt it
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