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Bfallon
Posted on Friday, June 08, 2018 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Question on 2007 Uly xb12x (1203-cc):
Is there a stock Harley starter kit that will work?
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2018 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Apparently, all of these starters are the same as the sportster starters.
I replaced mine with a chinese copy from amazon and it worked mint on my 2008.
The stock Denso starter from H-D was over $300 as I recall.
This is the one I got:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I13W4QQ/ref=o h_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
One thing I had to do was grind some clearance on the solenoid casting to make room for an oil line.

My stock 2008 starter was weak and pathetic since day one. I did finally die 2015 and that's when I replaced it. Cranks over like it should now.
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Bfallon
Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2018 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Natexlh1000. It is good to know the starter is so easily replaceable.
It's my first post to this forum. Very cool.
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Biffdotorg
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2018 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Easy is one way to put it. I did my 08 at the same time. I bought the Chinese one off Amazon and guess what, I have the unlucky oil leak now too.

Iím 99% sure that the starter is leaking the primary oil out on the engine as it is soaked back int here and dripping down on the muffler.

The Chinese starter is worth the gamble as it is 1/3 the price, and you may get one that wonít leak. And if you have to replace it, you are still money ahead. But I donít care to take mine apart again to fix it again.

It was a pain in the ass to get that starter in there. It just takes patience. I am honestly typing this from my garage as I hate the thought of pulling the primary open, and pulling that starter, just to put another back in there.

I prayed that it was the seal around the stator wire, just so that I could RTV it and not touch that damn starter. But oil is up on the starter leading to believe itís the issue.

Donít let me deter you from doing this, or hijack your thread. It was just odd coincidence that I am currently feeling the one pain of the Chinese starter.

Good luck
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2018 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Make sure it's not rocker box oil leaking down.

My 2008 starter project was not without its issues.
The first clowns that mailed my my Chinese starter used a single layer of newspaper to protect it in the box.
Came shattered to shit. Returned it for full refund and went to vendor I posted above.
Then after installation of the good one, had to grind the solenoid cover with a dremel to get the solid lines to fit.
finally, I had a pretty bad leak from the back of the starter. I found a big grain of sand in the gasket that I neglected to clean off. (my own lazy fault!)

Previous to that, I tried to fix the original starter so I had it out several times. I got like two more months on the original starter when I trued up and cleaned the solenoid contacts.
Then the sprag clutch crapped out.

So I am pretty good at removing and reinstalling my starter now.
Practice makes perfect : )
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Shoggin
Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2018 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's simply an issue of the starters front pinion bearing being sealed or not.

You can get the Chinese starter (even the higher kW one) and put the Harley sportster bearing in it for no leaks.

FYI, You can check it even before you install it, by taking off the nose cone and filling it with oil. If it leaks, get the right bearing, if not you're GTG!
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Uly_dude
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2018 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the extra input around starters. I ended up paying for the new one from St Paul HD. I'm hoping I never have to do this repair again. Bad design in having to take all this apart just to unbolt a starter. Oh well, part of the charm every spring!

I'll let you know how the repair goes after I'm finished. Greg
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2018 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





Need pics.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2018 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a picture:

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Hope it helps.
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