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Yan
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2018 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

right hand side heated grip on my wife's 09 XT doesn't work. I suspect it's the grip itself (and not the wiring/connector), because the grip gets baaaarely warm, while the left hand side is so hot you can't even touch it with a bare hand.

I can't find any stock ones, so I guess it will be aftermarket. Stock one has 3 wires going to it (I guess ground, low, and high) - anybody knows if any of the aftermarket ones work the same way? I appears some of them only have 2 wires (I am assuming they regulate between different settings by changing the voltage between 0 and 14) - does that mean I am doomed to lose the low setting and this handgrip will always work on high?
Thank you!

(Message edited by Yan on May 21, 2018)

(Message edited by Yan on May 21, 2018)
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2018 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine fatigued the wires where they came out from the grip.
I was able to cut the grip away with a blade to get at the tasty copper meat inside.
I was then able to solder it back together and heatshrink it.
I spliced it and tied it against the grip so it wouldn't flex there anymore.

It's one of those "temporary" fixes that has lasted longer than the original setup.
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It's worth a shot if you have nothing to lose, eh?
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651lance
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2018 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We have the full heated grip sets in stock. About a month a go I looked and the left and right grips are still available. If I’m remembering correctly they are $100 Per grip.
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Yan
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2018 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Absolutely, thank you!

What were the symptoms? Was it not working at all or working just a little bit like mine? Because mine does warm the grip just a bit, barely noticeable with a bare hand.\

Thank you!
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Yan
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2018 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lance - I looked at your website and couldn't find them individually, just the kit for over $200. I will email you shortly and maybe you could send me the link back?

Thank you!
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Smorris
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2018 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the zip tie is on my list to do. thanks for that tip.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2018 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My symptom was simple: right side didn't work.
Wire fatigued right where you would expect it to where the wire was flexed all the time.
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Yan
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2018 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great, thanks!

Mine works, but barely (on both low and hi settings), while the one on the left hand side works great, can't even touch it with a bare hand - that leads me to believe something's wrong with the heated element. Or am I wrong?
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2018 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you have an ohm meter, it's worth your while to measure it out from the connector.
Three wires, common ground and two different resistors.
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Yan
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2018 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great idea, thanks, I'll try that - can always compare the results with the 'good' left hand side
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2018 - 03:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought a Heat Daemon's grip kit to splice in, since theirs is a three wire element. I have yet to do it though, because I've been wondering if it was something as simple as Nate's repair and maybe I was not being clever enough to sort it out.

Both sides dead on mine. $200 is too rich for me for warm hands... I'll just park the bike in the cold instead.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2018 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Both sides dead = bad ground? bad switch?
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Monday, June 04, 2018 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They went out independently, first the left, for a while, then the right eventually joined it. So prolly not the controller... if they went out together I'd believe your were right Nate.
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Dtaylor
Posted on Monday, June 04, 2018 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I can't find any stock ones, so I guess it will be aftermarket. Stock one has 3 wires going to it (I guess ground, low, and high) - anybody knows if any of the aftermarket ones work the same way?




Yan, about 5 years ago I installed the three-wire Polly Heater inserts, connected to the stock grip plugs:

https://www.amazon.ca/Polly-Heaters-Handlebar-Grip -PH-200/dp/B000GU5LPS

With the Polly Heater inserts, I suppose you could just snip the wires off the defective heated grips (and re-use the plugs to connect the Polly Heaters). In my case, I replaced the defective grips with Buell non-heated grips.


Pros:
  • Reliable as anything. Tidier looking than wired grips, OEM or aftermarket.

Cons:
  • The install is a little time and labour intensive. You need to remove the handle bars, drill a couple of holes (be mindful of where those wires will exit) and fish the polly heater wires through.
  • They are a little slower get up to temp than regular wired grips, as the heat has to travel through the handlebar to the grips.


(Message edited by dtaylor on June 04, 2018)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, June 04, 2018 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Totally different animal, and have their own controller, but I have quite a few customers on UJM bikes who have installed Oxford heated grips. Was going to get a set for the S2 and its 1" bars....but Bambi took care of that for me. Their kits seem extremely well-done though.
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, June 04, 2018 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the Oxfords on mine and they've worked well.
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Mark_weiss
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I lost the low temp winding on one of my grips and 'solved' the issue by opening the connector and swapping wires. Now, that grip will get warm, but not hot. Since I am in Arizona, that works fine.
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