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Archive through February 04, 2018Etennuly30 02-04-18  11:32 pm
         

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Grand
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2018 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cheers Etennuly, I didn't know the newer bikes had a different bearing.
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Smorris
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2018 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so will this bearing be used to update 06-07?
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2018 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes it is the update for the 06/07. That is why I have one! Old style no longer available.
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, February 16, 2018 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I opened it up today. To my surprise my '06 has the up graded double row bearing in it. I had been watching the how to videos and was perplexed when I could not pull the spacer out.

At 3,700 miles in mid summer of 2006 it went in for warranty for output shaft leaking. I presume they installed the up graded unit rather than fix just the internal spacer seal or outer seal if my bike even had the old style bearing from new.

I can tell you there is zero issue from lack of oil, or rust from setting. I pushed it thirty feet after setting for six weeks unmoved. After the seal was out oil oozed out of the bearing and down the side case. No tipping to the right needed.

There is 60,300 miles on this double row bearing and it looks perfect. I see no evidence of galling, flat spotting, debris, or contaminants. Going to look at it with a magnifying glass tomorrow.

I may have found a cause for the noise symptom outside of what this bearing sounds like. My idler pulley bearings have a minut looseness with a very slight dry notchy feel.

It is a PITA beyond the video to make a puller for this one piece set up. So I am considering, if it looks good magnified, to install the new seal and replace the idler pulley. The bearing balls look smooth chrome like even, to the naked eye.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, February 16, 2018 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Vern- you can just replace the bearings in the idler pulley if you want. Itís pretty straight forward.
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, February 16, 2018 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Hugh. I was thinking that but reading SM says otherwise. I will pop them out and go visit a local bearing house.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2018 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Be careful with the press, I can't see that pulley being super-strong for side-press pressures...
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2018 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hugh have you changed idler bearings? Do they press straight through or have to be pulled out each side ?

I was thinking the same Joe.
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Dtaylor
Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2018 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Twin Motorcycles has a great writeup with pictures on idler pulley bearing replacement:

https://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/artikelen.asp?cid=7 &aid=292

The bearings are 6203-2RS

Chill the bearings in the freezer and heat the pulley hub -- if they don't drop into place, they will require very little pressure to seat.

(Message edited by dtaylor on February 17, 2018)
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2018 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Doug. Good info.
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2018 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those spiral retaining rings are the same style that's used to hold the valve in on the top of a beer keg. Just in case anybody wanted some useless information...
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2018 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Greg it is raining here, useless information is the call of the day!
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Motorfish
Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2018 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Timken replacement is P203PP Z3 FD50000
Just to throw it out there.
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2018 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They make great key rings!
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2018 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good news! Upon further much closer inspection, my big smooth slippery balls are in great shape. I'm feeling good about that.

Tearing it down this far to find good parts is not a mistake in diagnosis here. It is a relief to see the upgraded parts in place. The only way to find out is to get the sprocket off and try to remove the spacer. With the old bearing set up the center spacer will pull right out leaving the seal intact. No way this built in spacer will move.


The source of my ill sounding noise that was so similar to the internet video was my little crusty rusty rough balls! The idler pulley so close to the front pulley had the noise right there.






The grease dried out. Running dry, very little rust. Very little side play. Did not even feel rough until the bearings were out of the pulley.
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2018 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well that fixed it ! Nice little ride to town for gas and all is almost well.

Now I need to fix the rear brake light switch and the neutral light isn't working. Time for an oil change and a front tire. It's about time to pump some new brake fluid through it too.

Still love riding this bike!
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2018 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MMmm. That bearing makes me hungry for granola.
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