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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wanted to run this by you guys, and see if my thoughts are the same as yours.

2008 XT, with 2010 rear wheel. 49300 miles on the odometer. Hero Blue of course.


As of late I've had a weird high pitched squeak noise coming from the bike, progressively getting worse and worse, but not bad enough for me to be able to find it. Previously I would hear it riding around town, an occasional chirp while riding around at lower speeds (below fan-on speed), and I was able to reproduce it coasting engine off downhill.

Now it has gotten much worse and I can hear it pushing the bike around. I put the bike on a rear stand, and moving the wheel either forward or backwards will make the noises, but I'm still not 100% sure where it is coming from. I can feel the noise in the belt as I rotate the rear wheel. The idler pulley has a small amount of play in it, making me suspect the bearings, and I also see a small rust trail coming out the center of it.

Thoughts?



Pic of my ugly tensioner wheel.





I also got some video:

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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Idler bearings are shot. Now I will watch the video.
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yalp! Need to replace ASAP.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Look on Twin Motorcycles page. They have a good step-by-step write up with photos showing how to replace the bearings.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok just as I feared.

Can this be attacked without touching the rear axle? Like simply remove that torx screw going through the center of the bearing? If that can be done without much effort, I'll swap with the one on my 06 then get this repaired at my leisure.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Found what you are talking about Hugh. https://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/artikelen.asp?cid=7 &aid=292

Knowing my luck I'll have the stuck bearings that don't come out so I'll just throw the tensioner at a dealer once I get it out. Looks like it might not be something I can cheat and get away without loosening the axle.
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe, If you are strong enough.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The wheel is Aluminum while the race is Steel.
Aluminum expands much more than Steel with the application of heat.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy- I replaced mine about a year ago. It wasn't too bad of a job. It's small enough so that you can use a vise to press the bearings out and in.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2017 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





Looks like I need more than just bearings....
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2017 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You could probably run it that way with no serious issues, although I can imagine you might feel that flat spot in the wheel with the bike going ~60 MPH.

Why not just "borrow" the idler roller off of one of your other XB's?
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2017 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow. That's squeaky alright.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2017 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hugh that was my plan, but the problem is my other XBs are not stored in the same area code as this one, so it would be a bit of a back and forth to get it done, but not impossible. My local dealer has one on order and will have it in tomorrow, so I'll be able to throw it on this weekend and be all ready for BITA, assuming nothing else falls off.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2017 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Might make a good ringer for wind chimes with a leather band around it.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2017 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey pop off that bearing seal. I want to see some gore!
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2017 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)




Gone to get the popcorn.
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Tootal
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2017 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good one Frogster! I saw the rust stain and knew the problem but when I saw it go clunk clunk I burst out laughing! Sorry for your loss but...

I wouldn't worry about that chunk missing on the outside diameter. Change out the bearings and go ride!
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Griffmeister
Posted on Friday, July 21, 2017 - 02:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's the new belt installation aid. When you're trying to put on a tight belt just line it up with the flat spot on the wheel.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, July 21, 2017 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got the new tensioner, it will go on tonight once it cools down outside.

For your entertainment I tried to get to the bearings on the old one but have not succeeded. I can't get the torx bolt going through the center to loosen, so I tried just prying up the seal and I can't get that to budge either.
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