| Author | Message | ||
     Dr_gumpert |
So I just got back from a lomg ride, and when I lean the bike on the stand it leans very far, and as I walk over to it, one bolt snaps and the other bends at and almost 90% turn. Now that wouldnt have been so bad, but the frame litterally one inch in front of the frame puck hits the front rockgiard of my jeep and dents the frame. But as if that wasnt enough, when I turned the key to double check the millage, every fuze in the box popped at the same time.... I guess this is a sign that I shouldnt own a buell. | ||
| Jim2 |
Bummer, sorry to hear. I think there is a frame for sell on houston craigslist. | ||
| Arry |
I'm sorry to hear of your bad luck, also. If it's a minor dent, it might not be a problem, other than visual. I wonder if the wiring harness got pinched, where it comes by the steering head, when it fell against your jeep. The kickstand bolts coming loose, is a common issue. Too bad you had to find out in this way. | ||
| Pitchondesign |
Although this is a known issue, there is a recall, its still a problem. My 06 has the new (2 bolt) kickstand and new bolts. The bolts still broke. Fortunately I was able to save the bike from falling over. I replaced the bolts with grade 8 bolts which I hope will be better. Time will tell. | ||
| Teeps |
The bolts were not the the problem... Below are links related to the great side stand mounting bolt failure of 2006. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/209756.html?1151612435 http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/287535.html?1152025586 http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/370519.html Bottom line; there is nothing wrong with the stock bolts. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
I saw my bike leaning way further than normal and found that one of the bolts had sheared. Getting it out was a pain but I got it accomplished. I drilled and tapped up to a 7/16 x 14 grade 8 bolt for the one that had sheared. Left the other stock. That was probably a couple of years ago with no problems since. When I fixed my son's Uly rocker box leak I also changed both his kickstand bolts to 7/16 x 14 grade 8 bolts as a preventative upgrade measure. All good. | ||
| Dr_gumpert |
Would putting in OEM bolts with red loctite work? | ||
| Teeps |
Yes red would work; but I would not use it. The strength of the locking agent was never the issue. | ||
| Dr_gumpert |
What cuases the bolts to back out and break? Vibrations would be my first guess, and red loctite is perfect for load bearings bolts that vibrate. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
I don't think they loosen as you would think. I think they are stretched and that makes them be loose. I've seen lots of people abuse their stands but I never did yet I still lost a bolt while it was still under warranty. Now you've made me paranoid. I have to look at mine in the parking lot  | ||
| Arry |
Vibration probably does cause the bolts to loosen up. Once they start to loosen, it allow the bike to lean more and more as they loosen. When the bike leans, it causes more and more stress on the kickstand and mounting bolts. So, once they start to loosen, it doesn't take long for something to break. If you use locktite, I would probably use the medium strength blue, instead of the (hard to remove without heating) red. Some people are used to sitting on their bike, while the bike is balanced on the kickstand, probably not a good idea on the Uly, because the bike is tall and the kickstand (and mounting) aren't overly sturdy. | ||
| Sagehawk |
My husky 250 xc was a left side kickstart bike. Had to have stand up when starting. When selling it, two guys came to look at it, wanted to start it up. He just jumped over on seat and kicked the poo out of it, never putting kickstand up. Snapped that dude right off. I was at work but my wonderful wife told him he was not only buying the bike but the kickstand as well. I so hated getting rid of that 83 husky. | ||
| Dr_gumpert |
Where can I find the grade 8 bolts at? Would lowes have them, or do I need to go to harley. | ||
| Teeps |
The bolts did not loosen. They were never torqued properly, due to excess thread friction. Though to be caused by spoiled dry thread locker, applied by the supplier. There was insufficient clamping force on the side stand bracket. Allowing micro movement (fretting) which causes the bolts to fail. The torque wrench said the bolt was tight. In reality the bolt was not preloaded to supply needed clamping force. (Think of a bolt the same you would a tension spring sitting on a table.) Please see info in the links I posted above. Dr, Grade 8 bolts can be had at auto parts stores and "old school" hardware stores, if you're so lucky to have one. Go here: https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/mat erials-and-grades/bolt-grade-chart.aspx To learn how to tell bolt grades. | ||
| Dr_gumpert |
I went to lowes, got the bolts I needed, and used some loctite. Hopefully these bolts dont break like the last two... | ||
| Xbimmer |
The stock CA0015.02A8 bolts are already Grade 8. For future reference. |
