| Author | Message | ||
     Sagehawk |
Wanted to ask a few things as I'm still finding my way around tprt. When looking at the clt in f, is there a way to turn it into centigrade and then have the 240, 250 c range that the buell might need? I did a idle log just to create one and use that info to learn the software. The ego was only topping out at 95. Is that feature go higher in value as needed or is that the max? I realize this was written for cars but adapted to the buell in this instance. I Also Realize I Never Really Got hot Enough to get off cold start enrichment all the way for very long. Lastly for this post, is the rule for fuel maps still hold that datalog rear cylinder, make changes. Copy rear map over front and add 2 more points across the map for front cylinder? I haven't set my front header up with a 02 bung yet to log front cylinder. Front map in places is way over 2 points higher than rear. Making a educated learning curve here guys and appreciate any and all feedback. Thanks! | ||
| Readyxb |
1. In your .adx file, there is a definition for CLT_F, which is pulled from in the Dash, List, History, or Monitor (depending on which you are viewing). You simply need to go to Acquisition-> Edit Definition... and change the particular data view to use "CLT" instead of "CLT_F". Or, change "CLT_F" to be in units of Centigrade. 2. Ego can go higher or lower than 95. If it was always 95, it could be because you never entered Closed Loop and is therefore reflecting AFV. It should show some fluctuation even in a properly tuned engine. Need more details on your situation... 3. Unfortunately, there is no free lunch for tuning the front cylinder. You -must- tune the front fuel map based on front cylinder measurement. Anything else is a just a guess. | ||
| Ourdee |
Wish there was a book, "Tunerpro RT For Dummies". | ||
| Sagehawk |
Readyxb, I found where to change info and did so. I saw where ego was 100 for max value. I've got to find time for proper datalogging to get bike on up to temp and see what I've got going. Bike is running good right now but. Being a tinkerer, I like to learn stuff. I'm thinking of a thread in knowledge vault on ecms , tunerpro, ecmspy. So some of us that don't have a tune ecm book for dummies can share views on inner workings of a ecm. Won't be this weekend as more rain is shown to be coming and have a 41st wedding anniversary this weekend. Some sacrifice must be made ,I suppose. | ||
| Readyxb |
We need to start an wiki for stuff not covered in the existing Tuning Guide. Congrats on the anniversary. That is true dedication. | ||
| Sagehawk |
thanks, in 1974, I did not get a manual for her, and no manual for the two kids either!  | ||
| Phelan |
The way I datalog is with a 7" Winbook TW700 in my RAM mount X grip, with the diagnostic cable plugged in between the two. I haven't hooked up TunerPro to it yet but plan to. With ECM Spy active, I get about 2-2.5 hrs of real time info and datalogging, when I'm on a ride long enough. I use this tablet because its a full windows tablet with a full size USB port (microUSB is not nearly robust enough) and it fit in my existing X Grip. Eventually I'd like to upgrade to a larger X grip and a Surface Pro or something with more RAM and battery life for longer rides and more screen real estate. That would be extremely useful for a program like TunerPro, which has a lot more buttons than ECM Spy. | ||
| Phelan |
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| Lyonne |
I've spent a lot of time messing around with Tunerpro. I use an android program for logging. The cell phones are cheaper and easier to hall around. I use a blue tooth for data linking. Honestly after messing around with the fuel maps, fan settings and a bunch of other stuff, I went back to the stock map with the learning turned off. I never liked how the closed loop oxygen sensor leaned the bike to the point of surging. I even replaced the oxygen sensor with no change. | ||
| Phelan |
You can change the target AFRs with Megalog or even with notepad modifying the ECM Spy map files. I did so to richen up higher RPM and throttle positions, | ||
| Sagehawk |
Phelan: are you using the stock o2 narrowband sensor or does one have to use a wide band sensor to change these afr's with megalog? | ||
| Phelan |
Still stock. | ||
| Lyonne |
Phelan - Sorry to thread hijack, but I'm not sure where the target AFRs are. I use TunerPro and I haven't seen a "target afr" table. I have an "O2 Sensor Target Voltage Array", but it only has two values. | ||
| Uly_man |
"When looking at the clt in f, is there a way to turn it into centigrade". There is already a list for C engine and air temps. If using monitor just right click and use the one you want or both if wished. As said use ADX to change the setting of temp band width and for that matter any of the other ones you want. The idea though is to keep the data lines within the screen area and not let them "bounce" outside of it by making the data band to narrow for the specific monitored function. You can also assign a preferred color to each one for easier identification. Myself I only use four to six functions at one time since anymore can "squish" the display to much and can be confusing to monitor. Just me though. The ECM is just a mini computer and its outputs IE What it does is a function of logic. It will only work correctly if the inputs from its sensors are correct. Or in other words if it gets incorrect inputs it will make incorrect adjustments to the engine. Crap in, crap out. It is NOT a brain. For instance everyone would know that if you tried to run your bike on water it would not work but a ECM is unable to tell the difference between water and petrol. All it knows is the fluids PSI in the system. |
