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Crempel
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the option where I live in western NC of 93 octane containing 10% ethanol or I can also get 90 octane straight gas. Any thoughts from the huddled masses?
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Try both out. You will likely see a small bump in fuel economy on the straight gas. The lower octane shouldn't be an issue assuming your bike is healthy.

Straight gas does not exist anywhere near where I live but I've tried it many during my travels, my bikes run the same but I can go a little further before the fuel light comes on. Do the math, it likely is not more economical to keep buying it.
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If given the choice, price being near equal, I always go for the non alcohol gas.

I have found that the premium in either is best for an engine that is going to sit for a while without running, with a heavy preference on non alcohol.

I have tested all of my vehicles and find a difference of 8 - 10 % drop in fuel mileage with alcohol, the octane makes smaller measurable difference.
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Timinnc
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have used both and see no difference in performance or milage.
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1313
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unlike a lot of others, my '08 XB12XT is susceptible to poor running from ethanol gas.

Fortunately for me, the closest gas station to my house has non-ethanol gas, but only 90 octane.

It sucks in general because this is the bike I take on trips and I haven't found any ethanol treatment that works with all the gas I've been forced to get on the road.

There's a website for locating non-ethanol gas - if only I could get those as points of interest on my GPS...

Consider yourself lucky if your bike can't tell the difference,
1313
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Sagehawk
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When industry went to ethanol from mtbe, all other options supposedly stopped. What is the oxygenate in this non ethanol fuel? Just visited with a bueller from brazil, and he was saying they have 25% ethanol across the board in their fuel. He's repaired countless fuel pump wiring on buell due to their fuel
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2015 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I add SeaFoam to my fuel often. I use it at 125ml to 4 gallons. Could there be a risk of any kind?
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Sagehawk
Posted on Sunday, August 30, 2015 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wouldn't be much different than the ethanol that is in the gas. should help in the combustion chambers a lot.
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, August 31, 2015 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ethanol Sucks! Period. Bike runs perfect on 90+ octane gas and gets 6 more mpg. Go back to 93 octane ethanol and it pings, starts harder and drops mileage.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, August 31, 2015 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only time I like ethanol is winter... gas anti-freeze.

My brother from Texas stayed with us for a while.
One winter morning, around -10dF the car wouldn't start.
I went into the garage and got a bottle of Everclear and poured about a pint in the gas tank.
We went inside and had some coffee and a smoke, went out and the car started right up.
He just shook his head.

Z
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