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Teeps
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The fan on my '06 Ulysses died yesterday at a little over 33k miles.
It's made that crackly sound with the key off running for over 20k miles.
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Terrycoxusa
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good to know, I should have another 20,000 to go.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine is still going strong at 47,000 miles. The day will come for it but so far so good.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine's making the rattly noises when cold now. Third fan, first rattled its way to replacement on warranty. From my profile: Fan: on the way out at 6k, but no change yet at 10k (updated 10/06). (06/25/07): Getting rattlier but still works, spare is in the garage... 26k. (09/22/07): How long can this thing take to die? Rattles and clicks but still "works" @ 35k. Replaced under warranty before the clock ran out, about 45k.

Second froze up w/o warning couple years ago, I had bought a spare back in '06 which I replaced as the third. Since it was one of the earlier fans if it behaves like the first then I should be good til about 130K.
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fan appears to be working when cold... this morning.
Considering that the fan, literally lives in an oven, it's a wonder that they last as long as they do!
Which makes me wonder why Buell put the fan where they did. I'm guessing for cost & packaging.

I'm torn, at over 150 bucks for a replacement fan.
The Greek in me wants to seek a cheaper solution, like mounting a ducted fan system from a model plane, at the front of each scoop.
Naaah, likely to cost more than a stock replacement fan.
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Terrycoxusa
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell put the fan where the heat needs to be pulled out, the only other choice would have been to put it in a 'push' configuration. The other piece that gets really hot is the rear shock, since the fan blows all the heat onto it.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When and if my fan ever gives up the ghost I'm not going to be p'o'd since it has kept that rear cylinder from turning into one big solid hunk of metal for so many years.

Has anyone ever figured out if the fan from the 1190 bikes is the same as the ULY fan? It would be nice if you could just buy the replacement fan without the bracket since the bracket around the fan should be just fine. If we could figure out exactly what the fan is and buy it from the fan manufacturer, surely it wouldn't cost anywhere near 150 bucks.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have a look at the brand name on the motor housing ,there are a lot of different models

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/721547.html?1381099169
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was 600 miles from home during hot mid summer when my fan died. It was at 33,000 miles. The fan went in a glorious ball of smoke while I was stopped at an intersection.

I rode the 600 miles home in one day coasting with the engine off from speed to a stop. I did that every time I had to stop.

My replacement fan is now at 28,000 miles. We shall see if it holds up better with it not switching on and off all of the time, vs staying on manually switched.
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Teeps
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2014 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

New fan. Check!
New O2 sensor, because it made sense. Check!
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2014 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Teeps,
Remember that the Bosch O2 sensor can be bought for about $20 at Autozone, Orielly's, and any of those sorts or auto parts stores. If you get it from Harley or American Sportbike it will cost you more than twice that amount for the exact same sensor.

Anyone doing a fan replacement should replace the O2 sensor at the same since it is right there in the open and easily done when the fan is pulled out of the way.
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2014 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EG, Roger that, on both counts!
Once the fan was out. I could see that the O2 sensor was "RIGHT THERE!"
Note for others:
O2 sensor replacement follows the same procedure as the fan...

Pep Boys had the Bosh O2 sensor 12014, it appears to be the exact part. Including the wire length & connector coupler.
"The Boy's" even sent me home with a O2 sensor socket set, after a refundable deposit of $32, was paid upfront! The swap was easy...
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2014 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For those curious minds:
The fan in my Ulysses was bone dry. As in no oil contamination.

The rear ball bearing (fan blade side) seized(?) or other wise quit turning.
Leaving the armature axle to spin within the bearing inner race. Wearing the axle to the point that the permanent magnets pulled the armature into direct contact.
This is what prevented the motor from restarting.
I suspect the brushes are all but gone too. As the motor did not go up in smoke, nor did the fan 10 amp fuse blow.
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Teeps
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2014 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found this fan on the Spal web site, then on amazon.
They also make this same fan in a puller version.
Don't know if it will work but it's intriguing.

http://www.amazon.com/Spal-30103013-Paddle-Blade-Pusher/dp/B009OBP182/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1411658008&sr=1-2&keywords=spal+5.2+fan

(Message edited by teeps on September 25, 2014)
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