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Krabykarl
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2014 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is everyone's favorite anti-fog treatment? I wear glasses under my facesheild with pinlock. Pinlock works great glasses fog. Bought some cheap spray on Amazon (No Fog Zero One)that did nothing. Tired of reading Amazon reviews that are all over the place so I'm coming here.
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Griffmeister
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2014 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Contacts or Lasik would be your best choice. I have tried Novus and Blaze on my glasses with mixed results. On days that aren't too moist either one works well. It's just those cool and really moist days that seem to be too much for any treatment to last very long.

BTW, the Pinlock is a replaceable liner isn't it? How long do they last? I just ordered a replacement shield that has Pinlocks and was wondering if it was worth getting the liners.
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Krabykarl
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2014 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pinlocks last forever or at least until you scratch them which is unlikely since they are on the inside. No coating they work on the principle of an air gap between the Pinlock shield and the real facesheild. Just like dual pane windows in your house. Well worth it, for they don't ever fog.
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Jesse_lackman
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2014 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cat crap




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Jesse_lackman
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2014 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://ekusa.com/cat-crap
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Bluzm2
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2014 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Of all the stuff I've tried, Catcrap worked the best for me. Wasn't perfect but it did help. Get it at ski shops.
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Uly_man
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2014 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"No coating they work on the principle of an air gap between the Pinlock shield". You can tell me if I am wrong but I do not think that is entirely right. The air gap is not 100% airtight, unlike a Fog City, and uses a small bead of silicon around the edge. Which is why you can take it out to fit other shades IE Dark.

The insert is not normal plastic either, see the Pinlock site, it is some sort of gas permeable stuff. If you get water on it it "streaks" and stays that way until it "air" drys. Wiping it seems to make it worse as well. I used one in the rain and it was a nightmare as unless the visor is 100% closed rain gets in to BOTH sides of the insert rendering it useless at night. Part of the reason I got one on my new Arai was for a Pinlock, as I now need to were eye glasses, and now wish I had not bothered.

The best system I have had is a Fog City on a normal visor. They NEVER fog up.

I have yet to find anything that works for very long on eye glasses. Let me know if you do as it is a pain in the ass.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2014 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, rats...you just ruined my day. After many decades of foggy face shields, and trying EVERYTHING (I agree the Fog City Fog Shield works well), I received a PINLOCK face shield/insert for my Shoei Hornet DS. Was looking forward to having a good experience with it, but now...well, I guess more $$$ wasted (I wear eyeglasses also).

--Doc

"No coating they work on the principle of an air gap between the Pinlock shield". You can tell me if I am wrong but I do not think that is entirely right. The air gap is not 100% airtight, unlike a Fog City, and uses a small bead of silicon around the edge. Which is why you can take it out to fit other shades IE Dark.

The insert is not normal plastic either, see the Pinlock site, it is some sort of gas permeable stuff. If you get water on it it "streaks" and stays that way until it "air" drys. Wiping it seems to make it worse as well. I used one in the rain and it was a nightmare as unless the visor is 100% closed rain gets in to BOTH sides of the insert rendering it useless at night. Part of the reason I got one on my new Arai was for a Pinlock, as I now need to were eye glasses, and now wish I had not bothered.

The best system I have had is a Fog City on a normal visor. They NEVER fog up.

I have yet to find anything that works for very long on eye glasses. Let me know if you do as it is a pain in the ass.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2014 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yeah, to augment my above posting, I recently purchased a "Respro Foggy Breath Mask" out of the UK. It's a mask-like thing that gives better "coverage" than the typical breath mask (if you get my drift).

Placement is critical, and---so far---it doesn't seem to help much with either the shield-fogging or glasses-fogging. I was hoping the combination of this breath mask + pinlock might work, but probably not.

The FINAL SOLUTION---which occurred to me while riding with an open shield in the sleet to prevent fogging---is to NOT WEAR A HELMET!!

--Doc
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Uly_man
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2014 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry Dr G. Try it though it may work for you and was just MY experience. It also may work better on the Shoei helmet. Good luck.
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Uly_man
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2014 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The FINAL SOLUTION? I guess you could stick two, sealed to fit, tubes up your nose and breath through them. It should work as long as they were kept short so the air vents 100%.
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Teeps
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2014 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Happy to see you're back Dr._greg.
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Krabykarl
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2014 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just ordered up some Cat Crap. It was either that or Spit. Since I just cleaned the cat box my decision was made easy. $5.89 from Amazon (love Amazon Prime).
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2014 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wiped my glasses with rain-x as well as my clear shield. It worked pretty well. Made easy to wipe beads.

As I have aged my distance vision has become 20-20 so for the last few years no glasses works better.....until we stop for lunch and I cannot read the menus!

I don't like wearing my contacs on the bike.
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Buewulf
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2014 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the Cat Crap doesn't work out, try McNett Sea Drops. I use it for diving masks.
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Krabykarl
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm incredibly nearsighted with astigmatism. Laser surgery would probably cure that but then I'd still have to wear reading glasses. Been wearing glasses since I was 10 and doubt I'll ever be free of them. I work in a windy dirty environment which make contacts uncomfortable so I gave them up years ago. Nowadays I wear progressive lenses(lineless trifocals) and really like them. No switching of glasses between reading computer, books and distance and they transition to dark in sunlight. Still not perfect for the transition does not do squat in a helmet or a car.
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Uly_man
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Still not perfect for the transition does not do squat in a helmet or a car". No they will not as cars/ visors have a "built in" UV block which is what makes the tint transition work. Which is a shame and something I had not considered, dam and blast, on buying them.
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Biffdotorg
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2014 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Back in my day of wearing glasses, I used cat crap all the time. One season skiing and working on the mountain, I spent over 110 days in my ski boots. That included using cat crap all the time as I wore glasses and goggles. Or prescription sunglasses.

It does put a little haze on the lenses, but you just take a clean cloth and buff it like wax and it becomes clear to see through. Great stuff.
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Krabykarl
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2014 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

About 45 degrees this morning not damp but cool enough to fog. Glasses would fog for no more then a second or two then clear right up. Cat Crap seems to be the way to go. Thanks guys.
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General_ulysses
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2014 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used to use this stuff called Fog-X on my helmet visor back in the 80's that was made by Rain-X. It worked great. I don't see fog-x on Rain-X's website today, but they have rain-x antifog which I guess is the same stuff. Might wanna give it a try, it worked well back in the day.
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