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Biffdotorg
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - 12:25 pm: | 
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I too read something in the manual of my 2004 and my 2008 that the EFI system was meant to be shut down with the "stop" kill switch.
I remember it specifically as my Yamaha EFI Snowmobiles are just the opposite. Their kill switch is exactly that, a kill switch. Their EFI is meant to be shut down with the key, and that kill switch is for emergency situations only.
This is not the standard on snowmobiles as most 2-stroke guys leave the key on all the time, and use the kill switch. Some don't even have a key, they have a kill cord, so the stop switch is their only real way to stop the engine other than pulling the kill cord.
I will keep using my kill switch. |
Skifastbadly
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - 12:34 pm: |
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I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition. |
Woodnbow
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - 01:10 pm: |
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Not nice enough to ride in most of the country. Spring skiing isn't that great either, all that's left is griping on internet boards... |
Firemanjim
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - 01:29 pm: |
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"all that's left is griping on internet boards"...
Yup, you can always tell when it is bad weather around here.
Cannot believe anyone with an S-2 DOESN'T park in gear, they are so prone to coming off that terribly designed kickstand. And The location of the key on the Uly and it's cousins always pissed me off. The key should be up where it is easily reached by everyone! |
Big_island_rider
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - 01:36 pm: |
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Froggy
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - 01:59 pm: |
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quote:"I can't see how you can safely shut off a Uly without the kill switch". Is this some sort of JOKE?
No, I'm not quadruple jointed with 20' long arms like many on here. I can't easily reach around the bars to the key on the Uly. I can if I really try hard, and end up hitting the horn or falling off the bike. |
Uly_man
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - 03:44 pm: |
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Cool one, Froggy.
Well I guess you can do it as you wish/ was taught. I put mine in neutral and switch off (long arms) or after getting off the bike. The only thing with that is that you may, with the motor running, hit the gear lever which would not be good.
As far as dropping the bike, with the engine running, the BAS will stop the engine but the "kill switch" is still of use if needed in an emergency situation. Which is what its primary function always was as far as I am aware/ was taught. |
Griffmeister
| | Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2014 - 12:15 am: |
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Ha, I forgot all about this. At the top of our B,B&D forum there is a link to the owners manuals of which the 08 is still good.
For one thing, the handlebar switch is called the "Off/Run" switch, not an emergency stop or "Kill" switch. And, right near the top of page 27 under notes, it reads "The engine off/run switch should be used to shut the engine off". The same is repeated on page 50 under "Stopping the engine". Of course there is no explanation as to why this is how they want you to do it. Maybe it is just to create a "memory" response so you won't have to think about it when some sudden situation arises.
I do know that the BAS works as intended when the bike is on it's side.  |
Tankhead
| | Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2014 - 06:44 am: |
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I always use the off/run button. Never shut the bike with the key. That seems odd to do that. I also always keep it in gear when parked. No big deal because the neutral light hasn't worked since 10,000 miles and I have to have the clutch in because of that fact. No desire to fix that part either. |
Jesse_lackman
| | Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2014 - 10:38 am: |
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I'm not sure you could pass the Motorcycle Safety Foundation's Basic Rider Course if you didn't use the kill switch. And that was on their bikes with more easily accessible ignition switches. They really hammered the sequence front brake on, key on, clutch in, in neutral, kill switch off, then start.
Another thing they taught is all four fingers on the front brake, or all four on the throttle. My son is a sport bike rider and said no, two fingers on the brake the rest on the throttle so you can retain good throttle control AND cover the front brake. The Uly stops well with two fingers on the front brake. It seems to be more of a sport bike than a Harley. |
Jesse_lackman
| | Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2014 - 10:40 am: |
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The instructor was a Harley guy but did buy a Ulysses the week I took the course! |
Gp81
| | Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2014 - 04:35 pm: |
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I grew up riding 2 and 4.stroke dirt bike since I was 6. On the 2 strokers the only way to stop the engine was to hit the kill ( or pop the clutch at a stop while in gear.... Usually a doh moment by accident). Just how I learned growing up. Once in a blue moon it it's daylight sometimes I forget to turn the key off in another doh moment lol.
To each his own I guess..... |
Uly_man
| | Posted on Monday, April 21, 2014 - 11:07 am: |
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I know that I am going to get a KICKING for this but?
However you do this is about how you are/ were trained and is VERY different around the world. Bikes are not "safe" and NEVER WILL BE. You can fall off a standing bike and end up as a paraplegic or do the same at 100 mph and walk away with a smile, thats bikes?
The fact of the matter is that the important thing is NOT, for the most part, what you are doing at stand still but what you are doing on the move. |
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