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Nateba
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2014 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was just out testing the water on trade-in values for the Uly, ('08, 9,000 miles). I got a pretty consistent 3,500-4,000. I figure the bike is worth about $5900 according to NADA, so the $2,000 dealer cushion sounds about right. Does this sound standard to you guys? I got a pretty good deal on an FZ-09, but I couldn't pull the trigger. This damn bike.
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Fotoguzzi
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2014 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you want a third cylinder, 65Fp 112hp, 414# wet, $8,000 ?
not yet with ABS, what's with that?
still it won't have charisma like a Buell.
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Sagehawk
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2014 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

year and half ago, i test rode triumph 800xc. out the door,round 13,000.00. wouldn't offer over 3250.00 for uly. also, never found motor in that thing. no torque. so, i let that roll on by. glad i had uellymay to get back home on later that day. Permagrin and all!
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Nateba
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So 4,000 seems pretty reasonable. I actually test-rode the Tiger 800 a year ago just to try it out. I felt the same way. The engine was kind of boring, no torque, very stable- no "character." The FZ is another beast all together. Super-cool.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sadly with Buell Motorcycle Co no longer in existence, the value of your bike is extremely low but on the other hand if you keep it and continue to ride it, PRICELESS!
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Buewulf
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just received a trade-in value quote for my '06 with 17K miles for $2700, so I'd say that is a fair trade-in on you '08.
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Teeps
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Timely thread subject:
I too inquired about trade in value of my '06 Uly with 31K miles, toward a 2014 MV 800 Brutale.

They shot me a figure of $3000.

I offered 8 grand cash and the Uly, to drive off the lot that day.
They laughed at me; so I walked out... Didn't want to get rid of Uyl anyway.

$3500 would be pretty good for trade in.
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Nateba
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There was a Duc dealership a while back that offered me 5,000 for the same bike. That one took me by surprise, but they would make it up with the cost of their bikes I'm sure. If I did buy another bike, ideally I'd like to keep the Uly and sell it if it didnt get use, but I don't know that I would feel comfortable selling it to a private party. I would feel like I was setting someone up for a headache.
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Teeps
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea, the Buell is a unique bike. In that if you do not understand "it", the experience, can and most likely, will end in tears.
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Krabykarl
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I was to trade mine in it would be on one of those 3 cylinder Tuningforks. Back in the day I had a XS650. Loved,,, it but the guys who had XS750s and 850s... Man, that triple made a nice sound. Was thinking about getting one of those bugeyed Triumphs but could not get my brain around the looks. So I ended up with a Uly???
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Nateba
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Off topic, but Krabykarl- I saw in your profile that you're from Catonsville, MD. I used to work at a tattoo shop right down the street in Ellicott City before moving out west. Small world! Anyhow, I definitely agree about the Yamaha triple. Nothing has even really sparked my interest for a trade until the FZ-09 came out.
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Callawegian
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry about the thread jack but I was talking to a Yamaha dealership manager a couple of weeks ago. The company is bringing out an adventure bike based on the FZ - 09 this summer.
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Sagehawk
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yeah! Thats what I'm talking about! The more choices the better. As always, natural selection will take over then.
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4_pete_sake
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just sold my first Buell last weekend.... as in the first Buell I purchased. 2006 Uly. I have since bought and / or sold a 2009 CR, 2010 Uly and most recently a 2008 TT... the values on these 4 bikes have been all over the place. Location makes a difference of course but the right buyer means everything... I sold mine in the dead of winter in Colorado for more then most are selling for on here but perhaps short of dealers prices but not necessarily... doing the homework on your model, cleaning it up, taking GOOD pictures of it for craigslist or eBay make a huge difference... loading pictures everywhere including on here... if you make the effort it can pay off. It takes much longer to sell a bike no one can see without emailing you first.... salesmanship one oh one

In my opinion obviously BUELLS RULE!!!!

No better bike for the value.

Still, while I have a Uly still it was hard to sell my first... every mile was mine...

Cheers - pete


iii


short wheel base bike in a 8' bed... looks sooo funny
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Woodnbow
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"doing the homework on your model, cleaning it up, taking GOOD pictures of it for craigslist or eBay make a huge difference... loading pictures everywhere including on here... if you make the effort it can pay off. It takes much longer to sell a bike no one can see without emailing you first.... salesmanship one oh one"

THIS bears repeating... Make an effort at providing a good view of the bike and any accessories and it will pay off! I've bought and sold a bunch of bikes over the years. I discount heavily when I see a bike that's been neglected and by that I mean my first clue is "how clean is it?". I don't care how you clean your bike (or don't) while you're using it but when you decide to sell it should be detailed, spotless and sparkling..
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Nateba
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Prepping the bike for sale isn't really the issue for me. The issue is selling a bike that works when sold, but could potentially act up a week down the road. People that aren't familiar with Buells and their "character" could be very upset if they bike a new bike and its acting up a few weeks later. This is what worries me. Has anyone experienced this with their sales?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just overdisclose and take my lumps on making it harder to sell when I sell person to person. I've never had anyone come back with some disaster.

When I trade into a dealer (usually cars), my assumption is that they are professionals with professional mechanics and I will answer any specific question they care to ask honestly and completely, but I won't make a list of issues for them like I would do for a person to person sale.
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Teeps
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reepicheep Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014
I just overdisclose


You're an upstanding dude Reep!
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Teeps
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Callawegian Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 -
Sorry about the thread jack but I was talking to a Yamaha dealership manager a couple of weeks ago. The company is bringing out an adventure bike based on the FZ - 09 this summer.


If what you were told is true; that bike could be a big contender in the Adv-Bike world.
But, only if it comes with better suspension; and possibly the frame too.

There are a few FZ09's at the local hangout. All the riders say the same thing. The suspension is sub-par and the frame is a little flexi when the bike is pushed. Of course, this is street/track riding.
Time will tell.
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Uly_man
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You will ALWAYS lose out on any dealer bike trade-in. Fact of life.

The best deal is to sell what you have private and go to the dealer with a "bag-o-cash". Which you then use to negotiate the best deal.
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Teeps
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uly_man Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 -
You will ALWAYS lose out on any dealer bike trade-in. Fact of life.
The best deal is to sell what you have private and go to the dealer with a "bag-o-cash". Which you then use to negotiate the best deal.


Agreed.
I enjoy the hunt for a used bike; as I have always come out ahead.
In May of '06, I paid $8500 for my '06 Uly, with 850 miles on the clock.
Included was a black air box cover, a parts and service manual, 3qts of Mobil1 V-Twin oil and a Buell oil filter.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL. It means I'll never sell my 07 Uly. Even if it wasn't ground zero in the center of a cluster of crank failures, it has now been completely totaled and rebuilt under salvage title.

It doesn't bother me, I got it cheap and the insurance settlement pretty much paid for the bike *and* the non cosmetic repairs. The rest are just "adventure marks". Or "that *&*&^&^% toyota".

It helps that I will almost always buy used as well. By the time I buy it already depreciated, ride it for several years of fun, and go to sell it... there simply isn't that much value left in it anyway. It's easy to be moral. : )

Now I did have a Ford minvan with a sound that to me sounded like the beginning of a crank knock. I traded it in, and did not volunteer my opinion. Both dealers that gave me a quote were given the chance to test drive it. One said they were knocking $1000 off the trade in because the transmission was going (it wasn't). The other said they were knocking $800 off because the suspension was shot (how would you even know that? It's a Ford Minivan, they were built with a shot suspension). Neither mentioned the crank. Who knows if it lasted a week or another 50,000 miles (it wasn't that bad).

I still debate the morality of that deal. At the end of most days I'm OK with it because (a) they are professionals and (b) they were paying a crap trade in price anyway. My only lingering moral doubt about the whole deal is that they probably just flipped it to somebody else before it may or may not have gone wrong. I don't know how far my responsibility goes down the food chain.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yeah, I also traded in an old Audi 80. It had a fuel distributor that would come and go. That stupid thing cost me $400 in diagnostic fees before the mechanic finally declared what it was, and said it was a $1200 part, so I traded in the car. If the dealer had asked if the car had any issues, I was going to tell them I would give them the receipt for the diagnostic work for half the cost of the diagnosis (cash up front). Or leave the car with them as long as they wished to reach their own diagnosis, which they were not obligated to share with me.

They didn't ask.

Clearly, I spend a lot of time thinking about practical application of morality. : )
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Uly_man
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is Caveat Emptor either way and the power will depend on which side of the "bullet" you are on.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I discount heavily when I see a bike that's been neglected and by that I mean my first clue is "how clean is it?". I don't care how you clean your bike (or don't) while you're using it but when you decide to sell it should be detailed, spotless and sparkling..

Last time I traded in a jeep, I took it to a detail shop that the dealership used. $50.00 returned near $2000.00 extra. I had trouble composing myself when they made the offer for my trade-in. I already had an employee price on the new car and knew my trade-in's value. Only thing I could figure was they may have already had mine sold.
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Sprintex
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FZ-09 sounds like a fun bike maybe a used one down the road. Wouldn't replace the Uly though, just not as versatile.
I remember test riding a Uly so I could get a free hat or something and getting back on my Triumph and wondering where the low end went. : ). Having said that with the triumph you pretty much could leave it in fourth all day.
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Uly_man
Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2014 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Having said that with the triumph you pretty much could leave it in fourth all day". You can on a 10 Uly but can not remember what the 06 bike was like. Getting old I guess.
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Nateba
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ended up trading in the Uly yesterday for an FZ-09. If it wasn't for this board and my numerous inquires for help, I probably wouldn't have owned it as long as I did. It was a rad bike and I'm sure I'll miss it. I left the owners manual in the bike and wrote the BadWeb address in bold letters on the front page so whoever picks it up has the best resources (assuming they don't already know about the page.)

I'm keeping my eyes on EBR/Hero to see what sweet offerings are on the way, sans the bar and shield.

Thank you guys for all the help this past year or two. Probably the most helpful forum I've ever seen.
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Krabykarl
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stop back later with a review of the FZ. I'm dreaming of a triple and a V-twin in my garage.
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Nateba
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will do. My girlfriend rides an SV650, so I kind of have that arrangement in my garage. Not quite a Buell twin, but still neat.
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