| Author | Message | ||
     Phoun49 |
Hey guys, I just got my Ulysses in a few days ago and I'm loving it so far. I was reading that you could load the maps from a EBR ECM onto the stock ECM with ECMspy. Does anyone know where to get the maps? Are there any disadvantages in using the EBR ECM maps over the stock maps? Also, is there a tutorial on doing a TPS reset for an '07 Ulysses? | ||
| Froggy |
Loading EBR maps onto a stock ECM would be piracy, and is not permitted on here. You can purchase a preprorammed EBR Race ECM to get what you want. http://www.erikbuellracing.com/store/parts-accesso ries/fuel-injection/xb12-preprogrammed-ecm.html As for the TPS reset, when you get the new ECM you can use TunerPro RT, DirectLink or the paid version of ECMspy to do it. Don't use the old free version (1.12.x) as it can corrupt the ECM. There are guides out there for each program, depending on which one you use. | ||
| Buewulf |
I think you may mean the Buell Race map, not the EBR maps. I am sure you can find people on here that are willing to share the maps they use which would be a close approximation of the race map in many cases. The main drawback to flashing any map is that it isn't specific to your bike. So some experimentation may be in order once you get one flashed to get the results you are after. I would not recommend the EBR ECM on your '07 from my own personal experience. Here is a YouTube tutorial for the TPS reset using ecmSpy. It is dated, but it should still apply. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i33__Qkvhn4 | ||
| Djohnk |
"I would not recommend the EBR ECM on your '07 from my own personal experience" Qouted from an email when I inquired: David, We appreciate your interest. We have not sold a calibration for the 2004-2007 XB’s with a stock exhaust, because the stock DDFI2 calibration is quite good, and not nearly as intrusive as the later DDFI3 bikes which had to meet tighter emissions. We have created a calibration, but the increases are marginal, and it’s not worth selling ECM’s to customers with no noticeable performance advantage. We do offer ECM’s for DDFI2 XB’s equipped with aftermarket slipon mufflers, like a Drummer, etc. Thank you, Customer Support Erik Buell Racing} | ||
| Reepicheep |
Aside from the predictable stumble that happens exactly once after I leave my driveway on a cold moring (so consistent I can pretty much tell you which mailbox it will hit beside), I am very happy with my stock 07 map with my stock intake and exhaust. No fouled plugs, nice linear power, starts and warms up easy, good MPG. | ||
| Etennuly |
Hey Reep, I have one for ya. How long does it take for you to get to that mail box? Mark your time and let it warm up exactly that much longer before riding next time out, then it won't do it!  .....I swear, fixing these problems are getting easier! ..... | ||
| Reepicheep |
It is actually the 3rd turn I take, about .7 miles. But I wanted it to sound a little better than it really was. Never stalls, but I always forget it until it does it again (and I am leaned over). Better than a cup of coffee. It's the first sign fall is coming... it is worse when it is cold. I'll time it sometime... | ||
| Buewulf |
"Quoted from an email when I inquired: "... They also told me that any improvements over the stock maps would not be noticeable. I would have been perfectly happy with no improvement as I purchased the EBR ECM to replace a damaged ECM and wasn't after any performance gains. However the EBR ECM is considerably worse than the stock unit with respect to pre-ignition. | ||
| Uly_man |
"Hey guys, I just got my Ulysses in a few days ago and I'm loving it so far". Cool. All the Ulys should run good in standard form with good fuel. If not then there IS something wrong with them IE Fuel, wiring or other. If runs good LEAVE IT ALONE. Tinkering with a bike will NOT make any more power that you will notice and may make the overall running worse. So it depends on what you are trying to do. I found the TPS reset near critical on the 06 bike as is the idle speed IE No less than 1050 rpm. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I've had zero issues with the EBR computer in my stock '06. If you have destination issues, retard your timing plate half a tic-mark and I bet that cures it. Regardless of computer. | ||
| Uly_man |
"I've had zero issues with the EBR computer in my stock '06". I have never had one but like the OEM bikes does ANYONE think that a bike maker would sell a bike that runs like crap or a product from EBR? Oh, it is just a "Buell" thing. | ||
| Shagg1970 |
From what I read in Motorcycle Consumer News in reviews of new bikes there still seems to be a lot of manufactures having issues with fueling on the bike, ie: jerky on off transition, poor idle quality etc. so to answer your question yes they do sell bikes that run poorly. on the flip side of the coin they are trying to meet the emission requirements so they can sell it, so it is mapped very lean. That is why "race only" programs or pcms run better as they do not have to meet emission requirements. | ||
| Sagehawk |
Don't forget all the fly by wire tech that is out and about now. all manufacturers that are going this way are having teething issues, or so it seems.. | ||
| Buewulf |
"does ANYONE think that a bike maker would sell a bike that runs like crap" Meeting emissions,R&D budgets and product launch deadlines are the main reasons for FI systems not quite being ready for primetime, not the capabilities of the engineers or desires of the manufacturers. I've ridden plenty of new bikes even recently that could certainly benefit from fueling mods. And I didn't say or imply that the EBR ECM is "crap", only that I wouldn't recommend it for his '07 based on my own experience with the EBR ECM on my '06 bike. | ||
| Arcticktm |
I must have gotten my EBR ECM for my stock '06 before they stopped offering it. I got it because my stock ECM was throwing the "ECM Failure" code from time to time (still ran, but occasionally stumbled out of nowhere). I would agree with EBR that there is no noticeable performance improvement on my stock '06 (added K&N filter since, but still stock exhaust). I would say on mine that pinging is also about the same. Did some before. Still does it when hot and under a lower rpm roll on load. No noticaeble change in mileage either. I'm OK with that, since I bought it as a replacement ECM, but I guess EBR decided their mission was only to sell parts that they can offer as an upgrade. Glad they still had it when mine failed. Would not have liked buying an ECM from H-D, and I am thinking it would have cost more. The EBR ECM was reasonably priced for an ECM when I bought it. And I can get them to reflash it for a reasonable fee, I believe, if needed in the future. | ||
| Uly_man |
Yes there are teething issues with many FI bikes even new ones as said. Runs "like crap" is just that not just a bit of "on gas" pickup slowness. Yes you can "chop up" an exhaust system and/ or fit something else but it is, and never has been, a "plug and play" situation even with a carb setup. The exhaust system on a bike, or car for that matter, is a highly complex issue that makers spend huge amounts of money on to develop. But have a bash if you think you can do better. | ||
| Sagehawk |
And to think that the folks before us, when explosion motor engineering was in infancy, decided a can that had 10x the volume of the cylinder, that was the design factor for early mufflers. Read that somewhere. I think. What a trip this has been! | ||
| Tootal |
And to think that the folks before us, when explosion motor engineering was in infancy, decided a can that had 10x the volume of the cylinder, that was the design factor for early mufflers. Read that somewhere. I think. What a trip this has been! Indeed! I have my great grandfather's books on Farm Knowledge from Sears and Roebuck, circa 1934. They have a chapter on basic motor design using a single cylinder example. You are right, there have been a lot of improving over the years but the basic design just hasn't changed much at all!! |
