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Kaikoura
Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2014 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So the ULY is worth less than a 2008 KLR 650..Im so happy I can just puke
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Arry
Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2014 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What's the problem? You just recently got your '08 xb12x, right? It should be a great bike, have you ridden it much yet? I've had my '07 for two years+ now, and yes it has had some issues but, all in all, I've gotten a lot of pleasure out of it.
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Kaikoura
Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2014 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Short ride. It's 10 degrees and snowy out. I paid too much. For sale. I'll have new title in 3 weeks.
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Woodnbow
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bi-polar much?
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you paid more than what the bike is worth (as per KBB/NADA), a check from the insurance company will be the last thing you want.

I'm surprised you have a X1 and never noticed the resale value of Buells in general. It just means you can get more bikes dirt cheap, hell the last Buell I bought brand new was about $5k, honestly I should have bought two. Resale only means something if you are planning on selling the bike, otherwise it means absolutely nothing.
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Arry
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You've got a low mile (5k/almost new), '08 (lots of upgrades over earlier Ulys). These two factors are worth spending a little more. In a couple of months, when you're having a blast with this new bike, you'll be singing a different tune.
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Pagprivat
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 07:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

*So the ULY is worth less than a 2008 KLR 650..Im so happy I can just puke*

Relax man. I'll tell you what I paid for my '07 Uly last year, and you'll be happy again. I'm living down in Brazil with a terrible tax level, and with the current exchange rate I paid about 9k. Plain stock. Then some smuggled in goodies, comfort kit, Drummer, EBRECM, etc. + service parts, for an additional ~3k, I'd say it's around 12k today. And I'm still lovin' it.

So, just be happy you're in the US, with "normal" price levels. Stick to it if you like it, forget the money. Impossible to put a price tag on pure riding joy!
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Shagg1970
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I personally love my Ulysses and paid full price when I bought it new in 2006. I would not trade it for a whole garage full of KLR650's or any other bikes. I have been riding for 39 years and had many bikes, the ulysses is he best all around bike the most fun, best handling, most comfortable bike I have ever owned. Just my opinion. I may buy another bike in the future but will never part with the uly.

But if your so unhappy and not going to enjoy it any how perhaps you should sell it and move on.
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Fotoguzzi
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blah! I've had 3 KLR's, the Uly is SO MUCH MORE BIKE, I'll never need another KLR now that I have this thing.

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Uly_man
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I mean I almost was going to pay 7500 dollars for a 2008 BMW GS1100 with 85k miles". I would rather pay that for a 08 Uly. A GS is not even in the same class as a Uly and no more an "off road" bike either no matter what some may say. Just go try one and see?

What something costs depends on many things. Like some people here in the UK will pay near $20,000 for a 1970s two door MK1 Ford Escort? Or $5000 for a Yamaha FS-E and thats fine if it "does" the thing for them. But I remember what they were like. Crap then and even more crap now.

The Uly is a very solid built bike but like any other it has taken a while to perfect. And while the old BMW bikes had a reputation for quality the new ones are not as good. This goes for there cars as well. People get a "mind set" about products and buy on the name. It is why a "brand name" can have value even if the company has no "money" assets. HD for instance make more money on there "other" products than on there bikes.
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Uly_man
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have to agree with Foto, Shagg, Frog, Pag and the others.

Yes I bought the MZ (just for something to play with and a run about bike) and for what it is and the price it is a great bike. In fact it is a very, very good bike but it is no Uly. I find part of the problem is that one may forget what other things are like. I do it with the Uly and my car.

The car is a 1988 BMW 730 with 130k on it and it will still cruise at 120 mph and goes round corners like a go-kart. And while it has some electrical age related problems it has not one single spot of rust on it in any place. And like the Uly every time I use it it is a fun machine to drive.
It also makes most modern EU mid weight cars feel and look like crap. AND it is almost as good on gas as well. Which is amazing for its age.

So just take it easy Dude and enjoy one of the best bikes ever made. Even if it did cost a little more than some you would still have to pay more to better it.
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Woodnbow
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"So the ULY is worth less than a 2008 KLR 650..Im so happy I can just puke"

You may have paid a couple of dollars over what it's "worth"... But how do you really know what it's "worth" yet? After you have more than 10 miles on it you might think "Damn, I'd have paid another 2 or 3 thousand for this bike!" Alternatively you might say to yourself, "Jeez, I only bought it because I have sloppy impulse control..." Either way if you give it a little time, (like until summer is right around the corner) you can likely recoup your investment and lick your wounds or just go for a nice long ride on your new Uly.
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General_ulysses
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 2008 has a lot of desirable upgrades over the earlier models (although I'm still very happy with my '06). The Uly is in another class compared to the KLR. Sure the KLR will be more reliable and there is much better dealer support for it. That part is undeniable. But if you bought the Uly for the fun riding factor, do yourself a favor: Don't ride your Uly at all until it warms up. Then on your first day of Uly riding, ride to a local Kawasaki dealer and go for a 10-20 mile test ride on a brand new KLR. Then jump back on your Uly and decide for yourself which one puts a bigger smile on your face. I can guarantee you'll lose your buyer's remorse very quickly if you do this. You may also want to go check out the prices on the new KTMs and BMWs. Honestly ask yourself if they're worth $10K more than your very new-like, late model with all the upgrades Uly?

If you have no mechanical skills at all, then maybe the Uly - or any Buell - isn't for you. Because unless you're willing to tinker and learn a bit on fixing these motorcycles (or know someone willing to do it for you), then that is a deciding factor for owning or not. But, frankly, you should have had that already figured out before pulling the trigger on your Uly in the first place.
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Uly_man
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOW. Wise words indeed.
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is 'Permagrin' that makes mortal men surrender silly thoughts like Kaikoura is suffering. Well, that and the BadWeB back up program, though not a guarantee, it far exceeds any help from any dealership or service manuals.

These two things have made my Buell ownership experience something that has never been matched from any other vehicle ownership that I have ever had. For reference that count goes over 350 vehicles of all different venues to date, new and used. Otherwise it might have been "just another bike", in a long line of them.

I bought my Uly new in '06 and paid full retail because if you wanted one, you had to get in line, that was the deal. After spending a year on a new '05 City-X there was no question that I wanted one! The first three years of riding it, everywhere I went I could always hear someone saying "Look, that is the bike I was telling you about!".

Eight years, 60,000 miles later and I still have people approach me to ask about my Uly.

I must say, I have never looked at a sale price for my Uly. I just don't need to.
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Uly_man
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the Uly/ XBs are the last of the "bikers" bike. Or, in other words, a bike that NEEDS input from its owner for best results. To do this you need to be involved with all the aspects of a bike and that includes how it works. Yes you can take your bike to a dealer to set up and or fix issues but you are missing out on part of what a bike is about.

Put it this way. A bike is about the journey and not the destination. Which, in many respects, is what life is about. Just make sure you have your Ulys key to hand to give to St Peter as you pass though the gates. If your going to brib someone make it a good one?
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Kaikoura
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Guys,,Its the weekend..Your words will help me get over this bad mindset I got going on…Just wish it wasn't 15 degrees outside and too much snow and road salt and sand..I appreciate the input..T
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Kaikoura
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do all my own wrenching too..the only part that scares me a bit is the ECM thing..I know I can use the SPY thing if needed,,but just a bit reluctant..Meredith HD in New Hampshire says they can still do that part if I ever need it..You guys are great..THX
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Uly_man
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I must say, I have never looked at a sale price for my Uly. I just don't need to". Either do I.
I could care less. My only problem with my Uly is fear of another theft. Part of the reason for buying the MZ is it makes for a useful ground point for the Uly.

Yes I know you all think that I am mad but I am not, yet, insane. I did once think that I was
Bi Polar but thought twice about it. As I did?
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Buewulf
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kaikoura,

If you paid too much, how will selling it and probably losing money on it help you feel better? Resale is the only time resale value means anything. Besides, I read in another post that you use a Mac, so you are clearly accustomed to overpaying for things.

Just ride it, man. You paid for it, so get some use out of it. You may find that it was worth every penny.
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Uly_man
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kaikoura. Fear not Dude. Once you get the bike set up for you and you start riding those great roads your only problem is going to be how you are going find a good enough doctor to wipe that VERY BIG stupid smile off your face. And, unlike sex, you can do it over and oveeeeeeeeer again.

Have fun Guy and worry not on the money. Life is short enough as it is.
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Pagprivat
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

*A bike is about the journey and not the destination. Which, in many respects, is what life is about.*

Hear, hear!
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7873jake
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its tempting to ask you if you're always "ready, fire, aim" but frankly its entertaining to watch the unravel in a public forum. Tough to quiet the internal panic, I take it? Then you post in a forum of owners who, in general, love their bikes, that your newer model year low mileage bike isn't worth whatever your analogy was and proceed with grumbling about it publicly.

I guess I could (should?) pat you the shoulder and offer a word of condolence but pulling the trigger on something intended to bring pleasure and enjoyment to your life only to have it cause such strife and stress within a fortnight of the purchase makes me scratch my head and go WTH, for a second, maybe two. Medicate.

Fueling this uncertainty and panic, it sounds like, is the fact that the weather deep in the frozen tundra of Vermont has you unable to ride. That sounds like a winning combination and excellent timing on your part.

Bi-polar much? Woodenbow, you nailed it.


Stay away from guns until the spring thaw...? Until then, at least your posts have entertainment value for now.
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Kaikoura
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Jake…Ill be alright…checkout my latest post..Twin bikes Facebook page..thing
Being out of work and buying new bike bike doesn't help the situation..Im in electrical construction and just waiting for winter to be over..its all good..T
"insanity is doing the same thing one and over but expecting different results"
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Fotoguzzi
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea It's always below zero here in Minnesota too.. at least I've been able to keep gassing up my snowblower for a power fix.

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Woodnbow
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2014 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jake that's only cause I recognize the symptoms from personal experience...
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Daddio
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2014 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kaikoura, besides the bi-polarism, you're also suffering from PMS, Parked Motorcycle Syndrome. I definitely recognize the symptoms (I say as I glance out the window as more &%4$#ng snow is falling...

However, keep up the posts, they DO make great reading.



How I get my V-twin 'power' fix, plowing my road, over and over again, with the hope the &%4$#ng snow will finally stop.
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Kaikoura
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2014 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ill do my best..
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Court
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2014 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>Im in electrical construction and just waiting for winter to be over..

I'm in electrical construction and am getting tired going 7-14's for the entire month of January . . . I'll be glad when 3/20/14 gets here and I come out of these outages.

(Message edited by court on February 08, 2014)
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Kaikoura
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2014 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im a brother of IBEW Local 300,,inside wireman..be safe Court..work is slow for us inside guys right now..Tom
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