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Pontlee77
Posted on Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does any one have the part number for the connector parts that substitute the 77 connector?

Thanks
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp? guid=YXHFSC&aid=2600&cid=204&s=&a=&aname=Buell_XB_ Voltage_regulator_service_kit_
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Airdale
Posted on Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell XB for years 03 - 07 is p/n is Y1312.02A8 American Sport Bike p/n # 17390
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Note that to install it by the book, you need a special Bosch wire crimping tool that most home mechanics don't have. Some people have soldered the lugs onto the wires which is probably a good approach.
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Motorfish
Posted on Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can`t remember what I used to crimp, but I know I soldered them. I also used some No-Alox anti corrosion compound and haven`t had any problems for over 10k miles.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 04:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A cheap pliers like this works perfect.
http://www.rexs-speedshop.com/Buget-Crimping-Plier s-for-Motorcycle-connectors
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Pontlee77
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 07:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, my 77has never given a problem in over 58000 kilometers, but i just want some peace of mind if one of these days it fails.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A cheap pliers like this works perfect.
http://www.rexs-speedshop.com/Buget-Crimping-Plier s-for-Motorcycle-connectors


Ha- wish I'd had a pair of those ~4 years ago when I installed mine. I had wire crimping pliers, but they were designed for the pre-insulated type crimp-on connectors and they didn't work very well.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hugh ,you mean pliers like this-on http://www.pedparts.co.uk/product/1273/wire-stripp er-crimping-tool
yep they suck ,they are only good for stripping cable when in a hurry or for in the tool box when off-roading with a jeep
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^ Yea, that's what I have. It does fine for crimping the intended connectors, like this:



but it was pretty useless for the Bosch terminals. I think I wound up doing most of it with needle nosed pliers.
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Uly_man
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The main electrical problem, with bikes, has always been Earth points and connectors. Sooner or later they will all start to break down, the nature of bikes, due to vibration, heating/cooling and/or corrosion of the mechanical connection of the wire to the fitting and the higher the load the faster they will fail. The problem with a modern FI bike is that it must NEVER fail and something Buell only got part right.

The 77 thing was fixed on the later bikes but if you have one and it is faulty I would just solder the wires and leave it at that. Easy, cheap and a 100% fix.

And if I have to use these I solder the ends on and use heat shrink on top of the ends.



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Griffmeister
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually, from the look of the pictures of the repair kit, those are Deutsch connectors. The crimping tool for those is sweet if you can get your hands on one. If you don't have one though, the real McCoy is around $250, ouch. Of course, if you're in the area, I have one on my service truck.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/180630629677
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Uly_man
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Deutsch connectors are military grade items and just about the best you can buy. The problem with Buell is that they used the best at one end and not very good at other points IE The 77 connector. They also used very few Earth points, which is good, but failed to make them work right IE Wire splices, paint on frame points, etc. Not good practice in my opinion.
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