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Kublak
Posted on Friday, September 13, 2013 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I figured some of you other Uly riders commute and tour in the rain. I have a set of Frogg Toggs, breathable and keeps you dry, but the pants ride up on me, and it all fills with air.

I'm looking for any suggestions to a breatheable 2 piece rain suit that isn't going to require a loan. Something to fit over a textile suit and be less like the Michelin Man.

Sorry if this topic is out there already, I searched but hadn't found anything.
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought the Triumph one piece that goes on like a duster. It works pretty good compared to a lot of others I've tried. You must practice putting it on and make sure everything is velcroed just right or it will leak. If done correctly it has kept me dry in an hour long deluge! It is a pain to put on though. I really wish somebody would make a good rain suit. Taped seams suck and after about 3 uses they leak. Nobody seems to get how the suit should be made and with what materials.

Back in 1985 I had a BMW suit where the seams were melted together. I was a one piece suit and never leaked until the seat area finally wore though from use but by then it was 10 years old. They don't make them like that anymore and that's too bad! Good luck in your search!
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Uly_man
Posted on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Frogg Toggs" is just not designed for bikes. It works but just as Regatta stuff does IE For light rain stuff and NOT on a bike let alone a naked one like a Uly.

On a bike you NEED made for bike only stuff. I have, over the years, built a vast amount of riding gear and one thing is for sure. The flash Gore-Tex stuff is hardly worth the extra money for the conditions you get on a bike. One suit cost $2000 and no better than one for $500.

If it was me I would buy a med weight leather suit like the Dainese M4/M6 suit, as it has nice stretch panels, with a waterproof over suit. Pick a over suit with welded seams, long leg zips for easy access, a liner (basic and/or for cold weather) and fits good over your other riding gear.
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Kag
Posted on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recently just went through this. I have been replacing items with quality Adv riding gear.....some good deals can be found by looking around on the adv forums.

Quality costs money but a cheap set to carry everywhere in the saddle bags I opted for a Nelson-Riggs 3000 suit when not actually rode tripping.

http://nelsonrigg.com/store/product.aspx?pid=1675
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Satori
Posted on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know if you washed your gear. One thing that you need to know is if you wash waterproof items in regular detergent it will destroy the waterproof quality.

Wash them in NikWax Tech wash, It will preserve that quality. Last time I did this I added a non waterproof fleece windbreaker, and its fairly waterproof now.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Sunday, September 15, 2013 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Much as I hat to admit it, the HD suits are pretty darn good. A friend has one, we picked it up on a trip when it started to rain.... I had my Buell suit, he had nothing at the time. My Buell suit is pretty good too but good luck finding one.
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Fltwistygirl
Posted on Monday, September 16, 2013 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uly man
I have a set of m c specifically designed frog toggs. They look great (hi viz) but like you I cannot recommend them for serious commuting or even riding in somewhat heavy rain.

My best bang for the buck raingear was the second set I got...a $40 Nelson Riggs set from the Dennis kirk outlet store. I have since gotten a one piece set that I wore while riding up the north shore of lake superior in cold blustery conditions last summer. Paired them up with a pair of aerostitch glove covers and i was golden....Kept me dry as a bone. Dont remember what brand it is but I will post up if anyone is interested.
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Kublak
Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2013 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an Olympia set of textile jacket and pants, but it's the older Airglide where the waterproof liner is the outer shell of the insulated layer. No good for any summer rains.

The PVC lined suits would seem to make you sweat as much as just getting soaked.

Appreciate the input from all. I'll keep the search going.
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Uly_man
Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 05:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have yet to find a perfect solution with ridding gear. The problem is, in my opinion, the unique situation of motorbike riding conditions. I have even adapted/reworked some of my gear to help the problem in the past. You need to find out what works best for you which is not easy I know.
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Glenn
Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Fltwistygirl,

I'm interested in the brand of your 1 piece suit please.
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Fltwistygirl
Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi glenn, it is a tourmaster elite series two one piece suit. iirc, it was somewhere between 50 and 70 bucks, probably on sale. It was too hot for everyday rain wear in fl, but was fantastic in mn. It will probably work well in colorado, once our mountain roads are rebuilt.
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Mattmcc00
Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used to have a "Rainrider 1-piece" best wet riding gear I ever owned. It was a hand me down from my dad. He used it for years, and then I used it for years.
Eventually, my dad started riding again and i had to give it back to him. He is still using it.

It must be 20+ years old or something by now.

Replaced it with a BMW garment. Worst garbage i ever bought.
In the first year the seams started leaking... warranty sent me a new one. Shortly after The zipper broke on that one. Warranty had that fixed. Then both shoulders ripped from the wind and its out of its 1 year warranty.
Emailed BMW, they said if its out of warranty there is nothing they can do. $300 for what I thought was quality rain gear turned out to be a BAD decision.
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Lloydxt
Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use an old Rev'it! one piece pvc, works great.
The new Rev'it! pacific one piece isnt pvc and is supposed to be good as well.
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Glenn
Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good thread and lots of excellent suggestions.

Thanks Fltwistygirl for the Tourmaster info!
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Buewulf
Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe Rocket RS-2
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Kublak
Posted on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Leaning toward the Rev'It Pacific H2O one piece, as long as I can find a place to try it on over boots and gear. Seems it'd be good in a pinch or on a long tour.

Olympia Horizon two piece is also a consideration.
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Ktmguy
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have to look, im not sure what brand it is, but my wife bought me a rain suit from a local store here, I think she paid 25-40 bucks for it. I tested it a month ago in rain so hard that it was stinging me through the suit and long sleeved shirt. I stayed perfectly dry.. Except Hands and feet.. Doh!
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Fltwistygirl
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I stayed perfectly dry.. Except Hands and feet.. Doh!"

Ahhh, a topic I hold near and dear...accessorizing! For the hands, and only after much trial and error with several brands of "waterproof" gloves, I finally just gave in and bought the three fingered glove covers from aerostitch. It took me a little time getting used to consolidating my five digits into three finger slots, but the beauty is they pack down small and fit over any of my m/c gloves. And as a bonus, their extreme ugliness in orange makes for an interesting conversation starter : ).

Boot covers can make a big difference in the war against soggy feet. Just make sure they fit properly and that there's no clearance issues with your shift lever. DAMHIK. B.
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Motorfish
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aerostich "lobster claws" work, period. I wear a Aerostich Darien jacket and pants too. Ok, they are not cheap, but I don't own rain gear because they are lined with Goretex. It works well and I have only gotten damp after an all day deluge. The same goes for the Oxtar Matrix boots I use. If I had to do it again, I would buy the one piece suit, as I always wear both. If I had to buy a rain suit to wear over riding gear, I would definitely buy a one piece suit, something breathable preferably, as they can get real hot, real fast. It nice not to have to pull over put on or take off all that stuff.
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Uly_man
Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 04:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do not use winter gloves very much but my old ones were toast so I tried these Knox Outdry gloves. They are superb gloves and unlike many winter gloves they are not over bulky, have FULL armour and the Boa lace system. You do need to "proof" the leather though to stop water soaking into the leather, but they are still waterproof, and makes "bedding in" of the gloves easy.






I then bought some of these. Knox Recon summer gloves. Full armour, gel protection on the knuckles, vented fingers and the Boa lace system. I liked them so much, and they were on offer, I bought a SECOND pair?





I have had many a glove in the past but none as good as these at any price.
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Uly_man
Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 04:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Boots?

I have been using the same set of Sidi courier boots for at least five years now. I have worn off the metal toe tips, the gear pad and 80% of the sole but everything else is still solid. Ok so this, old, version is not 100% waterproof and it takes 3 months to break them in but mine are now the most comfy boots I have ever had and have real good protection. They are PROPER all "real" leather boots rather than that fake stuff many use these days IE Lorica and Split Grain stuff.
I can also walk/wear them for most of the day with no problems and I do not have the best of feet due to size and stuff.
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