| Author | Message | |||
     Chorizo |
Anyone in the San Francisco Bay Area have Ecm Spy loaded and willing to help a Uly enthusiast out? Or help me actually get the program loaded on my pc and communicating with my bike would be ideal. Id be willing to trade $, lunch, laughs or wash your motorhome. I have tried in vain for literally hours to get the program to work and have combed over threads on the subject... I can build a house but can't get this worked out. Anybody? | |||
| Teeps |
Do you have the program and a known good cable? What OS are you trying to load the program on to? | |||
| Chorizo |
Hey Teeps I have an Xoptiinside Buell cable and loaded ECM Spy to VMware on a Mac and on an IBM Widows XP. Ive tried loading drivers and reloading ECM spy but no communication. Looks good on the screen click the keys tab. Actually tried many things for hours. Not sure if its a "known good cable" But its new and looks good. How do you know? Continuity? At this point Im hoping for help. I'll ride to a shop or house. Thing is the bike runs great but engine light is on. Im sure its no big deal but that light gets to me.. | |||
| Teeps |
It should work according to your observations. Only way to know the cable is good would be if it works on another bike and/or computer. If you want to mail the cable to me; I'd be happy to try it on my laptop and '06 Uly. | |||
| General_ulysses |
You may be having a driver problem. I saw the connector on americansportbikes website here... http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/A9317.html And they refer to a driver website here... http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm Might want to experiment with some of those drivers. And make sure you restart your computer to help ensure it recognizes whatever port you have it plugged into. Also try different USB ports, don't just leave it in one port for every trial. | |||
| Tootal |
Chorizo, Once you see it on the screen you need to click on the Key button on the top left if I remember right. This allows it to communicate. Don't know if that's the problem but I've seen other post like yours and that's what was wrong. | |||
| Ratman |
What Tootal said. I screwed with my ecmspy for days trying to figure it out and that was the problem. Do you have the ecmspy loaded on a comp? hook up the cable to the plug under the seat on the left side and other end to the USB port? If you have a shortcut to the spy double click to open. You should see a pic of gauges and stuff, thats the overview window. 4th from the left up top see keys, a wrench, a computer chip symbol and then a cable and plug pic. open that and and you'll probably need to do a auto select so it can connect or pick a port to talk to. Click on overview again and then go the the top left pic with the keys. That's where you need to click to actually connect and get them communicating. So now with the key and run switch on you should see some values like TPS voltage, cold start etc. From here if you open diagnostics and/or trouble codes you can see whats up. far as screwin with the fuel rates don't ask me I have no clue. | |||
| Chorizo |
Thanks Guys I'll try all the above and report back. Out of curiosity, I started the Uly today and no engine light. Went for one hour ride, no light. Stopped for some water and on restart there was the light. Two miles down the road no light again. I feel like pulling the LED. | |||
| Firemanjim |
Come by the shop and we will look at it for free. At Infineon/Sears Point/Sonoma raceway. 707 548-7906 | |||
| Tootal |
If you're getting an occasional light it might be the muffler valve actuator starting to go. It's under the air box cover. (Fake gas tank) It sits on top of the air box. Remove the cover. With the kill switch in the off position turn on key, hold throttle wide open and flip the kill switch on. You should see actuator go through it's motion. If it only goes part way or not at all, time for a new one. Since yours is an 06 you have plastic gears that tend to strip out. The new ones are steel gears. | |||
| Bosgarage57 |
What tootal said, Muffler valve, same thing happened to me after replacing the Head Temp sensor, fan, and still a light. Diagnosed it, turned the valuve option off on ecm after putting on a hawk exhaust and its all good. The light use to bother me, cause i thought the fan wasnt working, but I had recently put a RSS on it so it took it a while longer for the fan to kick on. As long as your fan is working, i wouldnt worry terribly toooo much. | |||
| Chorizo |
Im beginning to think the cable is bad. Ive tried all suggestions and still no communication. Thanks for chiming in guys. Guess its new cable time. Bike runs great though. Vroom | |||
| General_ulysses |
Chorizo I just bought an ECM cable on ebay and a disk came with it. I downloaded ECMSpy on the net and installed it and then tried to interface the cable to the bike and use it with the software. No go, just like you describe above. And I tried all the things mentioned above as well, still wouldn't work. But the disk I have came with a driver called "CDM 2.04.06" This is an executable that will install the appropriate driver for the cable onto your computer. I'm running an old PC laptop with Windows XP. I installed the driver and then reconnected the cable and hooked into the bike again. Voila! It works just fine now. Although I notice my bike stumbles a bit and runs rougher with it hooked into the ECM. I think being tied to the bike slows the ECM down a bit so that it doesn't process data as quickly as it does without being connected. Anyway, if you can't find the driver online PM me and I'll email you a copy of the one I have. Odds are it'll fix your problem. | |||
| Chorizo |
Going to visit Fireman Jim tomorrow. Should be a big blue sky and 70+ day. Im sure he'll figure it out but either way it'll be a great ride and Ill meet some good people. Oh boy! | |||
| Chorizo |
Visited Fireman Jim and he figured it out in minutes. First off the ecm cable was bad.. But he hooked his up and cleaned up the exhaust valve code and past bad battery code. No engine light! Now for the good stuff. Jim pushed it up on his dyno and tuned the fuel mapping. Great power throughout and super smooth. Thanks Jim. I could have stayed for hours checking out his projects but I had to get back to Santa Cruz. Oh and just another perk going to his shop. On the way home I had to check the view.
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| Natexlh1000 |
That's great to hear. | |||
| Firemanjim |
Did not do alot, but his learned fuel area needed tweaking, so went through that on dyno. And not sure where the map came from because it was really F'ed up!! Tons of fuel at 1900 and 2400 and lean as can be at 3400---totally weird. So I just smoothed out the numbers so they made a sensible progression and off he went. | |||
| Tootal |
Did you know he was rich/lean from your O2 sensor or did ecmspy show you fuel values for certain squares on the grid? | |||
| Firemanjim |
Did not look at his bike with our O2 sensor, just ran it in learned areas and watched what AFR did, then adjusted until it stayed at 100%. The other areas I just used experience and logic to smooth it out,as the numbers were all over the place. He cam in for a quick check so we did just that. | |||
| Tootal |
So if you highlight a square on the map it will give you the AFR percentage? I'm just trying to learn the system. I've made quite an improvement over stock but was unaware you could get an AFR reading for an area on the map, that is if that's what you're saying. | |||
| Firemanjim |
No, I would just run his bike using dyno to hold at set rpm and run it at throttle positions in the learned fuel area, watching the screen and the little pop up that tells you it is learning on ECM Spy to see if it skewed AFV. If it did I changed the map to keep it at 100. | |||
| Tootal |
Ok, got it. Thanks!  |
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