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Murf2
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone tried this to lower the Uly a little?
The wife has a SuperTT & I have a Uly both are a little tall for us when running gravel & 2 track.

I noticed that there is about 5/8" difference between Ss to SupetTT to Uly in shock length. My thought is to try and buy a spring for an 06 Ss, put it on the SuperTT & put the SuperTT spring on the Uly. Letting me lower both bikes cheaply.

What do you guys think? I wish there was some info on Buell spring rates but I can't find any.

Thanks, Murf2
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2013 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe you can just put the whole SuperTT shock on your bike and the S spring on your ULY shock and put it on yours wife's bike.
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Gringo
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

murf check the archives theres gotta be a lot on this. i used the lowering ring technique on my shock an lowered the uly an inch, but it bottomed out on the underside and finally the shock sprung a leak, so i dont reccomend that. shorter spring might work but again if it gets overloaded it bottoms out. somebody posted the various lengths of shocks here, think it was frog, pm him, he knows everything
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Murf2
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Gringo! I've read all I can find & know the difference in the shock lengths. I guess I'm wondering what difference the different spring lengths will make. I tried the lowering collar also. I bottomed out on really had compression dips. If I could find out the spring rates & if they differed between springs, that would help. I haven't found that info yet.

Most people will say that lowering by just changing the spring isn't the way to do it but lots of people seem to have go results with it.

I may have to try & get in touch with Froggy & see if he can help me.

Thanks again,
Murf2
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But I don't know anything.
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Murf2
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well we all know that's not true

Maybe I should ask a little different question. Froggy, If you were looking to lower a Uly about 1"-1.5" how would you go about it?

Thanks!}
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Flat tire will do it everytime.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well that I can answer, it would be to swap the shock and forks off another bike. XT stuff will lower you about .85", STT/later SS will get you around 1.25" lower, and the older SS stuff will get you just over a 2" reduction.

That would be the right way to do it and the most plug and play without worrying about swapping trees, screwing up the geometry, etc. Lowering collars, adjusting fork height in the trees, and totally wrong shocks like the standard XB ones are just asking for trouble. I know several on here run various crazy configurations with no noticed ill effects, I just personally can't tell someone to do something like that.
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I lowered my XT with a collar. I went back to stock. With the collar I bottomed out the suspension under WOT through a dip in the pavement.

I've noticed that when I do stuff to the bike, I usually return it to stock 50% of the time.
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Jstav2012
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I lowered mine with the hyperpro spring on the shock, and used the 2" rox risers to raise the forks up about an inch in the tree. Still can't touch both balls of my feet flat, but good enough! That is with the shorter seat I have.
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Uly_man
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 06:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy is right.

Without going into all the issues about suspension, which can be amazingly complicated, the short answer is to just buy a bike that FITS YOU. You CAN ride a bike "tippy toes" as long as you are "aware of it" and many people do. They just "adjust" there ride style for this situation.

And no matter what ANYONE tells you almost NOTHING on a bike is "plug-and-play".
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Murf2
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I lost a post last night so here's a repost.

First thanks Froggy for the info but are you sure about the XT vs STT heights? Everything I have found says the STT is longer than the XT. I ask because I have a STT shock available but thought an XT would lower the seat more & I could keep the remote preload adjustment also.

Ourdee, I had the same experience with the collar. I got a strange "thrumming" feel when at full compression in a fast dip. In my mind it seemed like it was the belt straining or something. I removed the collar. I think it would work good for an average weight rider that wasn't packing a ton of gear. I only had the issue when fully loaded down.

Jstav2012, Do you know how much that lowered the seat height and how does it ride in general? I have looked at the Hyperpro "lowering" spring. I wonder if the spring rate is increased from a stock X spring to stop the bottoming out.

Uly_man, Not sure I'm following you. The X & XT are the same bike basically. Are you saying I should sell the X that I have set-up as I like it & buy an XT instead of a simple suspension change?

Thanks again to all who have replied!

Murf2
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