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Tlr_nate
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2012 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 2008 Uly with 16K plus miles on it. A few months ago I had a stumble almost stall issue and did the TPS reset. All has been good.

I went to go on a trip with the wife and the problem came back except this time when it does it the neutral light comes on. It does it in any gear and any RPM.

I did the TPS reset again, checked all connectors, ECM for cracks, grounds or loose wires. I can see nothing. Any ideas? It is not consistent and now seems to idle and start fine. Well, starts a bit hard like normal. This has me and several shops stumped. Before I take it and let have some have open season for "finding" an issue appreciate feedback.

Had to do the trip in a cage!
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Conchop
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2012 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Change your plugs - NGK iridium - tighten properly

Re route your breather

Run a tank with Sea Foam

Anytime you have a wire disconnected - use dielectric grease.

Clean your ground straps

trace the neutral light circuit
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North_of_55
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2012 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The stumble almost stall thing happens regularly on my '08. Usually starting off from a light. Once or twice it has happened entering traffic from a side street and almost gotten me hit... once it happened riding with my wife and she almost plowed her EX500 into my right leg as I tried to stop the bike from falling over after a complete stall.

I've changed the plugs, run the sea-foam and checked as many wire connections as I can get my fingers on.... I am currently blaming my ECM. The resin is cracked around the connectors on my stocker.

I'm planning to go EBR-ECM by next year... if I can find enough change in the couch cushions! Better yet, if my friends don't catch me digging around in their couches!
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cracked solder joint(s) in the ECM is a good possibility, as the symptoms can vary and are random.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So you are saying that everytime it stumbles the neutral light comes on? Need to look at that circuit and see what is cuaing light to come on, suspect a ground and it causes stumble.
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Tlr_nate
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have checked all the lines, wires and cables and seems OK. Totally confused.

Thanks for all the help. Will continue to check stuff but hope I do not need a whole new ECU.
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Nobuell
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 08xt did all kinds of strange things when it was bad. It mostly acted up off idle. You may want to get some new plug wires. Mine went bad and stumbled off idle. I recommend 8mm magnecor.
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