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Hughlysses
| Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 02:27 pm: |
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Story here: http://blogs.motorcyclistonline.com/ducati-unveil- 2013-multistradas-26077.html As far as the upcoming EBR AX, I hope EBR knows to lead when you shoot at a moving target. |
Xbkris
| Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 03:19 pm: |
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Love my uly but that is a great looking bike. Price is the only reason why I dont own one today. |
Terrible1one3
| Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 03:38 pm: |
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Well from what I heard about the Buell models and their price points this is going to be their competition. I think the Buell quote said they want to make more affordable rides expecting to be about 20k. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 04:52 pm: |
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Nice mandibles. The Ducati Multistrada, now 90% less ugly! |
Pontlee77
| Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:22 pm: |
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chain driven, not for me i rather shaft or belt. |
Buellerxt
| Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 09:16 pm: |
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I've heard and read nothing but superlatives about the Multistrada, Hughlysses. I have to believe it is a SUPER bike. I'm not a Panigale kind of rider but the reviews of that bike, alongwith with the Ducati cruiser and the Multistrada have me considering a Multi. I hope to test ride one soon. I LOVE my Uly but hey, we only have so much time! |
Kenm123t
| Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 09:43 pm: |
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If you like the Multi strudel look up Dr Greg here or on AdvRider he has had several Ulys and Multis He is a long distance rider. He has the most experience I know of with both bikes |
Pontlee77
| Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 11:00 pm: |
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I test ride the Triumph Tiger explorer and loved it haven't tried neither the super tenere nor the ducati, but as for now all are out of my range, specially as i got a month ago an X1. |
Murf2
| Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 06:05 am: |
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Hughlysses, Your right. Somebody should shoot that ugly S.O.B.
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Buewulf
| Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 02:49 pm: |
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Price is the only reason why I dont own one today. Maintenance is another. I actually had the opportunity to test ride one of these at a local dealer. The power is jaw-dropping, especially compared to the Uly. |
Pontlee77
| Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 10:01 pm: |
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ask the price of a chain set with new sprocket, sure to set off 600$ |
Buellerxt
| Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 12:00 am: |
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An American Multistrada+, just around the corner? I have a feeling that EBR will come up with something very special in early 2013. Maybe several 'somethings'! Definitely worth waiting, and hoping, for to me. |
Cyclonedon
| Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 02:22 am: |
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while I like the Multistrada and it has some good write up reports on it, I just couldn't see myself putting that much money into a motorcycle that I can't ride year around where I live. I think that was one of the big selling points on the Ulysses was the low price tag for an American made motorcycle that does everything so well. |
Buewulf
| Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 10:41 am: |
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I think that was one of the big selling points on the Ulysses was the low price tag I think the days of low price tags are long gone for the adventure bike category (Were they ever really that low anyway?) when the "cheap" ones start at $13,000 without options. Suzuki's little VStrom 650 Adventure is probably the sole bang-for-buck contender out there with ABS, cases and a few other farkles added for about $10K. |
Teeps
| Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 12:14 pm: |
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Water, chain and valve maintenance makes is a non-starter for me. Oh, and price, too. |
Buewulf
| Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 06:30 pm: |
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Water, chain and valve maintenance makes is a non-starter for me. Selection must be getting pretty thin for you, my friend! I hope that Uly lasts you a long time. I appreciate the simplicity of an air-cooled bike, but I have no issues with water-cooling and actually feel those bikes run better in a variety of conditions. So you would have to adjust your valves as often as you fix rocker box leaks. Fair trade? The Uly is my first bike with hydraulic valve adjusters, and I LOVE that feature. But I would trade that luxury for a more thrilling engine. While I have no love for chain maintenance, I'd take it over a belt. These darn belts can snap any time without warning, and I hate that. I'll take five minutes out of my day every couple of thousand miles to clean and lube a chain for the peace of mind it provides. I prefer a shaft over both as long as the gearing is proper... and it isn't a BMW shaft. . |
Terrible1one3
| Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 06:37 pm: |
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Plus 1 Buewolf |
Skifastbadly
| Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 06:47 pm: |
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I'll take the belt over a chain. I've broken two, one lasted 25K miles, the other one about 15K. The second time I was able to replace it on the side of the road in less than 30 minutes. That assumes, of course, one has a spare belt. |
Teeps
| Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 07:41 pm: |
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Buewulf Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2012 Selection must be getting pretty thin for you, my friend! I hope that Uly lasts you a long time. I'm ok with that. When the Uly expires; next stop Moto Guzzi. Will have valves to adjust but they're right out there in front of God and everyone. So it's a small trade off, for most of my requirements. I appreciate the simplicity of an air-cooled bike, but I have no issues with water-cooling and actually feel those bikes run better in a variety of conditions. There's no emotion, it's pure physics that they absolutely do. So you would have to adjust your valves as often as you fix rocker box leaks. Fair trade? Mine must be broken; no leaks anywhere. 27k miles. The Uly is my first bike with hydraulic valve adjusters, and I LOVE that feature. But I would trade that luxury for a more thrilling engine. The Uly is the first bike I've had with over 100 hp; I'm happy with that power. These darn belts can snap any time without warning, and I hate that. True enough... I'll take five minutes out of my day every couple of thousand miles to clean and lube a chain for the peace of mind it provides. Not me. |
Conchop
| Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 09:57 pm: |
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Well, its about time to see a picture of the EBR Uly replacement!
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Cyclonedon
| Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 11:59 pm: |
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Oh No! Not that road grader orange color again! That color tends to slow down the bike. |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 09:46 am: |
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I could go for a bit more room in the fairing box for farkle electronics. It would also be nice if the oil filter wasn't under any plastic that needed removing for oil changes. All socket head cap screws, no torx screws. Standard lithium iron phosphate battery. I don't mind paying upfront for the best. It is better than having to replace substandard bits after the fact. For instance, I'd of payed an extra 100 bucks or more for a stainless steel muffler if ever given the opportunity. Seat height should be an option also. No reason that a taller person should later have to buy the tall seat because the bike came with a munchkin thin oyster cooking seat. Maybe with EBR new style business plan this will all be possible. |
Uly_man
| Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 10:14 am: |
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Terrible1one3
| Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 11:25 am: |
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I doubt it will be that similar to the Uly (at least I hope). I can't imagine what having 140+ hp will be like on this already wheelie happy chassis. I wouldn't be going for it, I am already afraid of flipping over backwards off the line, especially two up. |
Conchop
| Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 10:41 am: |
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Hey Erik - send us a teaser pic! |
Erwin8r
| Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 10:58 am: |
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Blacken the forks, add some wheel base, more room behind the flyscreen, dump that "bronze" color on the rear subframe/grab rails, maybe a lighter ztl3 caliper, and we're good to go! Btw, I'll take a belt over a chain any day on a bike like this. And one stop at a duc dealer for a "service" will make you a hydraulic lifter believer. Don't get me wrong, I really want to love Ducs, and my SWMBO actually owns a 620 Monster, but I can't afford scheduled $1k maintenance on a bike. The Multi is probably the best of the breed in terms of all-around competency, and is a great option if money is no object... |
Mikef5000
| Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 01:54 pm: |
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I think the days of low price tags are long gone for the adventure bike category (Were they ever really that low anyway?) when the "cheap" ones start at $13,000 without options. The vast variation in definitions of "adventure bike" makes my head spin. Regardless, I think there are several low price options, but your going to have to sacrifice to get them. Expecting there to be a 100+ HP new technology 'low price tag' bike of any genre is silly. Road Oriented, ala cheap Multistrada or EBR AX: Kawasaki Versys - MSRP $7899 Dirt Oriented, ala cheap KTM Adventure: Husky 650 Terra - $6999 Happy Medium, ala cheap Yamaha Super Tenere or BMW 1200GS: Suzuki V-Strom 650 - $8299 Then you've still got the two standard ultra-cheap contenders: More street oriented Kawasaki KLR650 - MSRP $6499 More dirt oriented Suzuki DR650 - MSRP $5999 What more could you want? There's the Triumph 800, BMW 700GS, and V-strom 1000 in there around the $10k mark if you want a little more power/tech. I think the market is setup pretty well right now! But I still think the Yamaha Super Tenere, which can be had in the mid $11k's right now new, is the best value of the bunch though. |
Terrible1one3
| Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 02:41 pm: |
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Don't forget the new Honda NT700. Awesome bike, just underpowered. |
Mikef5000
| Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 05:36 pm: |
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True, but even with as wide a definition as "adventure bike" has, that would still fall squarely into the "sport tourer" category, no? Still another sub $10k bike none-the-less. (Message edited by Mikef5000 on September 22, 2012) |
Uly_man
| Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 06:08 pm: |
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I guess if you can pay the money for a Multisrada you will be good for the service costs as well. This bike is VERY complicated. The new bikes coming onto the market are becoming more so as well. ABS, traction control, linked brakes, tire pressure sensors and switchable suspension settings all add to this as well as the weight and price. I have never felt the need for all of that stuff. If you have good suspension, rubber and know how to ride neither should anyone else. The amount of people I come across who have no idea of how a bike works or how to ride is very worrying. I find it hard to think of a bike in the Ulys class as easy/cheap to maintain, good build quality, cheap to run/insure, comfy for rider/pillion, gearbox/brakes (mine anyway), handles so well and cheap to buy. They are the last of the "old school" bikes of which you can do as you wish with. Soon you will have to pay through the nose for dealers to fix your problems and if some have there way you will not be allowed to make any mods to your bike either IE can, lights, etc. |
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