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Ninasguy
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can someone tell me if a 2009 XB12X has an issue with the ecm location or did the factory take care of relocating it?
Thanks
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Sharkguy
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes they do have the same mounting and seat. No the factory didn't relocate them. I relocated mine after seeing rub marks from the seat. I also cut a piece out of the bottom of the seat pan to give it a bit more clearance. ECM hasn't given any problems to speak of so I guess I got it in time. You can check clearance using some modeling clay or similar material placed on top of the ecm. put your seat back on it and sit on the seat, move around on the seat or go for a ride. Remove the seat and check to see if the clay is smashed down any. Some say as the seat pan heats up it becomes more flexible and allows contact with the ecm. Mine came with a plastic spacer but the seat was still hitting the ecm.
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Ninasguy
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Sharkguy, I'm considering buying an '09 Uly and I've got the test ride scheduled for tomorrow. It only has 317 miles on it but I still want to take the seat off and check ecm for scuffs, cracks, etc.
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Sharkguy
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ninasguy, did you ever take that test ride? What did you think about the bike?
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Ninasguy
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes I did but it was only about eight miles and it was along Hwy. US1 which is a perfectly straight road on the east coast of Florida that runs along the beach. So, I really don't know anything about what the bike will do.
I did enjoy the torque but I am trying to decide if I want to deal with the heat issue. Even on such a short ride I felt a good bit of heat on my right leg...I don't know how bad it would be during the summer.
I'm also concerned about there not being any kind of warranty and these bikes being known for electrical issues.

The owner would not go lower than $8,000 so I asked for a week to decide. I would have to finance about $6500 and I hate making payments. I do love the thought of owning the bike but I'm a slow buyer.
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Corider
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 03:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Couldn't help noticing.
They have ecm electrical issues? Never noticed. I bought an '09 new, and now have a little over 15,000 on it. It's a great bike. The only trouble I've ever had is that it slips and falls over on ice. You may never have that problem.
The factory comfort kit helps a lot w/ the heat redistribution. Don't be afraid.
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Fltwistygirl
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 05:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I am trying to decide if I want to deal with the heat issue. Even on such a short ride I felt a good bit of heat on my right leg...I don't know how bad it would be during the summer."

Riding any motorcycle can be an unpleasant experience in the Florida summer heat. The comfort kit helps tremendously with the heat issue, but the most effective heat blocker we have found with our X and XT is proper riding pants. We ride our Ulys on a daily basis year round in Florida, often in stop and go Orlando traffic. Although putting on armoured riding pants seems like the least appealing thing anyone wants to do on a 96 degree sunny August afternoon, and people frequently give me crap about being ATGATT in the heat, it makes all the difference in the world in the fight against the dreaded "Uly leg". I've had the heat rash on my right thigh as a result of not wearing riding pants on a long hot ride and I don't ever want to contend with that again.

The ecm relo is a must do mod. We learned our lesson the hard way with both bikes but I am very happy with the resulting EBR ecm we have in the XT. We got it as a replacement for the stock ecm that we are sure cracked as a result of two-up riding in the heat.

For us, the comfort kit, riding pants and ecm relo are small inconveniences to be able to ride awesome bikes with relative peace of mind.

One more thing: if you buy the bike, try to keep your fuel tank mostly full when you ride in the heat. There is a theory that low fuel levels contribute to the fuel pump toasting in these bikes.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Buellerxt
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good points, Fltwistygirl. On a side note I am ATGATT too, with a Leatt neck brace as well, and our temps/humidity are very similar to yours but I don't get crap from folks. A few occasional questions like 'aren't you dieing from the heat' but not many. Are you washing your gear too much? : ) Maybe folks are just looking for an 'opening line' to talk to you! : ) J/K, but I haven't had that issue, which is cool. Not even at Sturgis. Most don't seem to care at all which is cool. Personal choice and we're all riders! : )

(Message edited by buellerxt on September 22, 2012)
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Bpt
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am a Florida XT rider as well. I have not had issues with the heat bothering me even just wearing jeans. I ride every day to work and I can tell you the FJR and CBR I had were worse and lets not talk about the DUC 999. I read the complaints about heat and you have to remember you are sitting on an air cooled engine there will be heat. But with the comfort kit it is manageable and not unbearable.

The ECM was already moved when I got my XT so no issues there and I am at 23000 miles with only regular maintenance and wheel bearing replacements.

The great thing about this bike is I have been able to do all the work on it with service manual in hand. That can't be said for many bikes now a days.

Good luck with the decision.
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Sharkguy
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can understand the heat being an issue. It is one of the things I don't like about my bike. You can put the comfort kit on which supposedly helps (I've never ridden one without it). It's still hot though, and more uncomfortable then either my beemers or my KLR. Although the k75 I had for awhile was a close second. It is welcome during the winter months however. Riding pants do help as mentioned by Fltwistygirl. I also placed some sticky backed insulation strips where the front edges of the seat are closest to the air filter cover on both sides. This has helped a lot with the heat blast that was coming through those areas. I'm going to try rotating my motor down soon to fix my breathers from leaking and I'll try installing some radiant heat block on the inside edges of the tank/frame at that time. So there are things that can be done to alleviate the heat. I try and do all my own work too. These are pretty easy bikes to wrench on. Most parts are still available. 8 grand seems a bit steep You can look around a bit and find a better deal I'm sure.
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