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Streetgliderx
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what is a good recommended helmet choice for a 85/15 street over dirt rider with a 850.00 dollar helmet budget? and im probably being hopeful at the 15% dirt time,... maybe more like 5%

also do these bikes have a helmet lock? if not is there a good one out there?

(Message edited by Streetgliderx on August 15, 2012)
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Ulysapper
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wish I had an $850 helmet budget!

There is a helmet lock but it's not the most convenient one out there, IMHO.
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Afsoc_commando
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The helmet lock on the bike is in a bad place...

check out these two items, you can lock you helmet and jacket up using the handlebar crossbar if you wish...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005W9K1L2/ref=ox _sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=A9NJNMT9ZTSIP

and

http://www.amazon.com/HELMETLOK-UNIVERSAL-MOTORCYC LE-HELMET-CABLE/dp/B007P4IUJW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&q id=1345068393&sr=8-3&keywords=helmetlok
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Weecorey
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$850! Are you wise? Why would you want to pay $850 for a lid?? Safety?? Looks??
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Uly_man
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hang a $850 helmet on a bike lock and that is the last you will see of it. Unless you live in Narnia of course.
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Bosgarage57
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My next helmet will be one with a visor to help with sun, I dont care much for the inside shield, as I have to wear sunglasses.
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Weecorey
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wear a Spada Sting, £90,about $140.
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Yo_barry
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shoei RF 1100.

About $500 +/-

My last one probably my life, bought another.
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Skifastbadly
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With helmets, you're always best with a recently discontinued model. Two years ago I scored a Shoei RF1000 for 175.
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Streetgliderx
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well come on fellas i didnt mean i had to spend 850 i just got 850 left over from what i stashed as my new uly fund. i know helmets are like anything else you get what you pay for. i aint decided on a dual sport helmet or a modular....
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The absolute first thing you need to do is figure out what shape your head is and what helmets (makes AND models) will fit it:

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmets/mot orcycle-helmet-shapes.htm

With that determined, try on different ones and see what feels best. That will narrow your choices down considerably.

THEN go shopping for a good deal on a helmet.
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Streetgliderx
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

dual sport helmets, which ones yall like?

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/arai-xd-4-helme t-solid

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/agv-ax-8-ds-evo -helmet

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/speed-strength- ss2500-hell-n-back-helmet

modulars

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shark-evoline-3 -st-hakka-helmet

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shark-evoline-3 -st-moovit-lumi-helmet

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shoei-neotec-he lmet

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/schuberth-c3-he lmet

i really like the shark in the modulars cause you can ride with it back,..

i like the evo, and xd-4 in dual sports?

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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

My next helmet will be one with a visor to help with sun, I dont care much for the inside shield, as I have to wear sunglasses.




An automatically tinting LCD screen mounted to the visor works pretty good : )
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$850! Are you wise? Why would you want to pay $850 for a lid?? Safety?? Looks??


Spoken like someone who hasn't had a helmet save his life...

Spend a few months bedridden in a TBI ward, learning to walk again, being the one patient in the whole ward who can talk back to the staff, looking at the other unfortunate souls in the ward and counting your blessings...and money becomes no object for a lid.

Get the best, most comfortable helmet you can afford. Replace it after no more than five years, with another quality helmet. Someday, when you least expect it...it could save your life.

Mine saved me, and I spent months in the ward looking at (and living day and night with) the alternative. I can't tell you how grateful I am that I made it through.
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Nillaice
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hands down the best helmet you can buy for under $850 american is
































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ONE THAT FITS!

go to cycle gear and try on as many as you can tolerate trying on. especially the different ARAI models.
ARAI is the only brand that advertizes their intererior helmet profiles(shapes)

then go to http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmets/mot orcycle-helmet-shapes.htm
and read their reviews to find ones that fit your dome.

then go back to cycle gear and try on more helmets. try them on for at least a minute, even if they are painful. the ones that you seriously consider for longer, like 15 minutes (since your gonnna wear it while you ride for hours) -you can browse the aisles- until you can place an order with confidence.
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Nillaice
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

unless you believe that the helmet which costs the most or has the coolest graphics is the best helmet for you.
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Danair
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 01:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got a $10 head, buy a $10 helmet.

Bell ad from the 60's

Protect your grape at all costs.
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Weecorey
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 05:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spoken like someone who hasn't had a helmet save his life...

Spend a few months bedridden in a TBI ward, learning to walk again, being the one patient in the whole ward who can talk back to the staff, looking at the other unfortunate souls in the ward and counting your blessings...and money becomes no object for a lid.

Get the best, most comfortable helmet you can afford. Replace it after no more than five years, with another quality helmet. Someday, when you least expect it...it could save your life.

Mine saved me, and I spent months in the ward looking at (and living day and night with) the alternative. I can't tell you how grateful I am that I made it through.


Glad you pulled through.

I can send you photos of 2 helmets that saved my life...

I raced for 4 years over here in Ireland, you ever seen any Irish road racing??

The most expensive isn't always the best, infact I would bet 9 out of 10 times it isn't the best. I always raced with HJC lids. A lot of guys race with Arai which are expensive, for me the HJC was just as comfortable and scored the same on a safety test.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree, the most money doesn't always equal the most protection. I just don't believe in buying a helmet based on the price tag - either way. "Budget shopping" is fine for macaroni dinners and tube socks, but not a good idea for a device designed to save your life.

HJC makes a good lid, as long as you stay away from some of their "features". Some of them tend to get gimmicky.

I have an Arai, but now that my head has finished healing...I'm not Arai-shaped anymore. My daily lid is a Shoei Multi-Tec modular with metal latches. They aren't allowed to rate the faceplate because it moves, but the metal latches are nice and stout. And dentists are cheaper and more common than brain surgeons, if I end up hitting something that hard again ; )

I suppose the advice I meant to give is:

"shop for features and ratings, not budget. Don't necessarily look for the best helmet for the money...get the best helmet for your head, and your safety".
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Ulysapper
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As far as helmet locks go, I've been using a gun lock (the kind that strings thru the breach). They're cheap and are VERY similar to the example that Afsoc gave above. I figure the gun is with me anyway, might as well use the lock out on the road.

http://www.amazon.com/Master-Lock-Cable-99KADSPT-K eyed/dp/B0007PRN76/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1345118 020&sr=8-11&keywords=gun+lock
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Weecorey
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"shop for features and ratings, not budget. Don't necessarily look for the best helmet for the money...get the best helmet for your head, and your safety".



Thats it.
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Pontlee77
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Schuberth are very good helmets, a friend has one and he woulden't use any other brand, they are not cheap but supposed to be very good.

Uvex makes a carbon one for 300€ on offer usually it sells for 600€ close to those 850$.
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Hun
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd say best option - get them all.
Modular, Adventure, Visor, Speed.
Have them all - one for each occasion.
Loafers and high heels - you need them both.
Interesting helmet i got 3 mths ago :
Reevu. Flip-down rearview 180view

Reevu
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Rfp52
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Schuberth C3 w/ the Scala Rider G4 built in. It will be a little more than $850 but worth it.


The new Nolan N-104 is probably as good they really went after Schuberth with the features.
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Tootal
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is starting to look like an oil thread!
As mentioned above, every helmet is shaped different inside. A Schuberth fits more of a square head and a Nolan fits an oval head. This is from personal experience as I've owned both and the Nolan fits me better. What's important is to find a manufacturer that fits your head the best and then look at the different models and see what features you want and get it. Wearing it for 20 minutes in the store and seeing if there is any pressure points is the best way. If there is, try another brand until you get one that's comfortable. Who wants to ride when your helmet is giving you a headache!
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not Arai-shaped anymore

All Arai helmts are NOT the same shape. On the head shapes, see that webbikeworld article for the latest info. It used to be that Arai was one shape and Shoei another; now that varies greatly by model. Arai makes some helmets that fit long-oval heads and others that are rounder. The same holds true for many other brands.

After owning 2 other helmets, I figured out I have a "long oval" head. I tried to find an Arai Profile (their long-oval model) to try, but couldn't find a stocking dealer in 3 or 4 large cities I tried. Through webbikeworld, I found that a Shark RSi is a long-oval helmet, and those were pretty easy to find. List price was similar to Arai, but you can find them HEAVILY discounted. I'm on my second and I like it a lot.
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Twobuells
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Arai XD. Had one since 2005. love it with my Ulysses. I want another one
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Buewulf
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 to Nillaice's advice. You have a solid budget, so go somewhere that has a knowledgeable staff and lots of helmets in lots of sizes in stock. Try them on. Leave them on. Walk around the store with them. A perfectly fitting helmet is like a perfect pair of gloves - you WANT to put it one because it feels so nice, and it is usually very quiet if it fits correctly around your face and head.

I have only ever ordered a helmet online once (a Carbon Fiber Joe Rocket that I currently use), and I regret it. Despite all the reviews and size charts, and head shape charts, etc., it just isn't right. So what I thought was a good deal is just money wasted.

That said, for cool factor, I hope your head fits into one of the following:

Arai XD


Arai XD


Shoei Hornet


Shoei Hornet


Icon Variant


Icon Variant


I love the looks of the Icon, but I haven't found it in stock anywhere to try it out. Arai has a shape that fits me perfectly, and I haven't found another brand that does so.
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Biffdotorg
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

X2 on the Arai XD series.

There is something to be said about the Arai shape. Although, I find that I only notice that on my forehead. The cheekpads can be changed out for thickness.

The XD3 or whatever model it is now ships with a standard pad measured in MM. If you order the Japanese version it will have thicker cheekpads since many asians have narrower faces.

I learned this as I bought the Arai Motard-x or whatever the japanese version of the XD3 was called. It fit great, and the pad packed out.

For those on military bases, the imports will only have a SNELL rating, and no DOT rating. Even though we know a SNELL rating supercedes DOT, military bases won't recognize that.

X2 on Get What Fits. Your budget of $850 will not be limiting you.

Good luck!
After an Evening Lake Run
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Jomartijr
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Every few years I attend the Ft Worth or Dallas Progressive Motorcycle Show and one of the vendors is an Aria dealer ( I guess it's not allowed to give the business name as they don't support this forum). They have experienced techs/salespeople who assist in matching head shape to Aria helmet type and I've done this twice. Both times came away satisfied and got a good fit.

That's another way of getting a good Aria fit instead of visiting several dealers and hoping they have a decent inventory of your size and recommended shape helmet.
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