| Author | Message | ||
     Tleighbell |
2006 Uly with 2010 rear wheel. I loosened the rear axle a couple of months ago to R & R belt tensioner. Did not use a torque wrench to re-tighten but heeded previous warnings that manual torque values may be too high so I was gentle with the axle, used a 3/8" ratchet for the pinch bolt, careful not to overdo it. Now trying to remove rear axle to change tires and that sucker will not budge. Using a 1/2" drive ratchet, used a rubber mallet and piece of tube to extend the handle, no luck. I could follow the old addage, "don't force it, use a bigger hammer" but I have been putting enough torque on there to worry about doing some damage. Any tricks here or just more leverage? On re-installation does it need anti-seize? | ||
| Froggy |
Yes, it sounds like you didn't use any last time you put the axle in, now your axle seized to the bearing races. | ||
| Argentcorvid |
i usually put a good coat of anti-seize on the whole axle when i re-install, including the unthreaded part that is held by the right side of the swingarm. you didn't see 'locktite' in the service manual and jump to the conclusion that you should put some blue (or red!) on there by any chance? because it actually tells you to use a locktite-branded anti-sieze. also i usually completely remove the pinch bolt, just so I'm sure i have it loose enough.  | ||
| Hughlysses |
If it won't budge at all, it's probably seized in the swingarm threads. If it's seized in the bearing races you'd be able to turn it, but it would get harder and harder as it unscrewed. I'd use Liquid Wrench, PB Blaster, etc. on the threaded end. Give it a few hard taps with something like a block of wood, let it soak for a couple of hours and then try again. You could try applying heat with a heat gun to the threaded side of the swingarm as well. | ||
| Etennuly |
A 1/2" ratchet that is a foot long with a foot of 'tubing' on it does not sound like a tool that would get the job done. See if you can get into a two feet long breaker bar, then put two feet of pipe on it. Making sure the direction you are turning(counter clock wise) it that you are actually loosening it, you can step down onto the pipe to break it loose. Heat gun on the rotor side of the swing arm end may help. Sometimes the break away torque moment can be substantial for a 1" threaded axle that did not have lube on it. | ||
| Tleighbell |
Thanks all. Last time I did not remove the axle, only loosened it and re-tightened without issues. No opportunity to put anti-seize or locktite on. Will try your suggestions. | ||
| Uly_man |
I would do it with the bike on the ground and the front brake locked on. Use a cable tie on the lever. Put a strap though the rear wheel and around the swing arm. This will stop any "spreading" of the arm as you do not want to damage that. Place a old socket on the end of the axle and give it a couple of light to medium hits with a 2kg steel hammer. Be VERY careful how you do this and do NOT hit the swing arm. Use a two foot breaker bar, not a ratchet, apply weight on the bar and slowly increase pressure/leverage with body weight. The idea of a strap though the rear wheel/around the swing arm, apart from protecting the swing arm, is that it will also hold, at the same time, the bearings and spacer in place. The spacer has a very much larger surface area on the axle and corrosion is more likely if you only had it off recently. It should come apart ok. | ||
| Ourdee |
Did you undo the pinch bolt underneath of the swing-arm? | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
I suggest getting some penetrating oil on the threaded side and let it set for a few days. | ||
| Tleighbell |
Just applied a couple of squirts of PB, had some lunch, another squirt, a few taps with a hammer, some gentle persuasion with a 2' breaker bar and it came undone with a bit of a crack. Definitely going to put on anti seize before it goes back together. Yes I had already undone the pinch bolt. Thanks guys, you are the best. | ||
| Billy_bee |
Another happy ending. Not the kind the masseuse ask you about. I mean, not that I have ever been asked... The kind of happy ending to a story, like, "They all lived happily ever after..." but not that little kid kind of happy ending, either. Oh, nevermind. Glad you got your axle out of your rear... Um, not YOUR rear. The rear end of your bike. Oh, nevermind... | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
While Billy is busy digging himself deeper and deeper.... I have used plain old grease from a tub. I put a dab on a paper towel and give the whole axle a thin coating. The tub of grease is labeled "brake parts grease" It was old looking when I was a boy. I think my dad got it when FORD was president. | ||
| Etennuly |
Henry or Gerald?  |
