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Buelldualsport
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Suggestions?

Had the dual hi/lo electric one on the the 06 & 07.

Looking for LOUD

Thanks all
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Uly_man
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Stebel "Naughty" compact twin air horn. Fits easy under front cowl and STUPID loud.





I have used them on both my Ulys and, no joke, seen "air" between ground and person in the past. In fact one person tried to hit me it scared them so much?
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We assume it needs a relay and upgraded horn wiring?

Thanks
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Redtail
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where do get em and at what's the cost?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Relay doesn't hurt, but isn't required. Just the difference between HONK and (honk) - and either is better than the factory "meep-meep". I ran without a relay on my 06 for a while, then when I was adding an HID low beam I went ahead and ran wiring for a relay, and holy crap! More than a little louder now!!

Google "stebel nautilus" and you should find scads of vendors. Can't remember offhand what sponsors carry it, but I'd lay money Al can get you one if you ask nicely ; )
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Barkbuster
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a stebel and it was loud but it took a second to spool up to make some noise so I switched to the Hella supertones. instant response 118db. mounted on the bottom triple clamp. I had a moment with the stebel and pushed the button to sound off and it did not make noise when i wanted it the hellas do.
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Appreciate the update and input.

Cheers
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Dynasport
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the delay normal for the Stebels? That is the first I have heard of it. I am thinking about replacing my stock horn as well.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NAPA sells a small, inexpensive horn, about the same size as our stock horn that's loud as heck! I can get more info if anyone is interested. Just picked one up at work the other day for the forklift.
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Treefrog
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Stebel has no delay. It WILL make a driver steering with his knees while eating noodles out of a tupperware bowl throw said noodles up into the headliner and end up wearing them. Just make sure you have an avenue of escape first. Road Rage will ensue. Get a Stebel and use a relay. You will not regret it.
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PD

Please may we have the #?

Thanks
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Pontlee77
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I added to the stock horn a pre XB horn wired it up to the stock one, the tone is good but not as loud as the stebel nautilus.
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Sprintex
Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Napa horn info would be cool.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NAPA part number 730-1057

(Message edited by panhead_dan on June 21, 2012)
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank for the 411

Ride safe
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Uly_man
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Relay doesn't hurt, but isn't required. Just the difference between HONK and (honk) - and either is better than the factory "meep-meep". I ran without a relay on my 06 for a while, then when I was adding an HID low beam I went ahead and ran wiring for a relay, and holy crap! More than a little louder now!!"

You CAN run it without a relay but you should not as it is BAD electrical practice. It comes with one and if you wire it as per the instructions you will have no problems. It pulls/runs a large current and if you do not wire the feed DIRECT from the battery and use the relay you can damage the wiring and/or switch gear of the bike. The bike has enough electrical problems as it is without adding any more.
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Barkbuster
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My stebel had the relay and was mounted in the same space as the stock one and it was louder than the hellas but not instant. With the hellas being mounted on the bottom triple clamp they are out in the open and very effective. Liking the supertones more than the stebal.
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Hooper
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

VERY happy Stebel Nautilus user...it has prevented a number of serious altercations for me. Granted, I saw the "event" as it was happening, honked, and took whatever evasive action, but that two-toned BLAST woke that driver right up. It may seem a bit aggressive, but I often look at the offending driver as I pass and give the "two fingers to the eyes" move with my index and ring fingers - pointing them at my visor - to remind them to LOOK!! USE YOUR EYES! The guilt and shock on the driver's face is good enough.

I only notice a micro-second delay on the horn as the compressor spools up...not anything that would affect my response time. On very cold rides, only one of my Stebel's two tones will blast (and it is still loud!).

I'm thinking of adding one to my car's horn when my warranty is up!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, June 22, 2012 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bike has enough electrical problems as it is without adding any more.

Really?

I run 55w aux lights, HID low beam, the Stebel, an aux brake light with a flasher, heated clothes, heated grips, GPS, and usually forget my battery tender (still on the OEM battery from '06). I have a Kuryakyn voltmeter installed, and it caught the 77 connector on its way out one night; I replaced that the next day and that's the only "problem" I've had out of it.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, June 22, 2012 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Counterpoint:
My 2008 uly has had THREE grounding failures.
It's a pretty reliable bike but the wiring harness is flawed.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I picked up one of those NAPA horns myself and have not installed it yet. Turns out it's a Fiamm and has a lifetime guarantee. This one says it's a high note, suggesting they have a low note also. I can't even imagine how loud a high and a low would be together. It looks to be smaller diameter but thicker than stock.
I'll likely not get it installed anytime soon due to priorities like fork tube replacement and fork rebuild, rocker box gasket and 3 or 4 other seals I have to get done. That and I have to get the panhead completed first.
This horn looks like a real bargain at about 16 bucks and very loud.
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Novice_bueller
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was thinking of upgrading horns also. Found this older comparison.


http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-horns/motor cycle-horn-comparison.htm/

Not sure if the quality issues with the Stebels is still valid.
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7873jake
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dan, the dual horn (low/high) makes for a vicious loud combo that, while possibly not as loud as a Stebel, is unignorably (is that a word?) loud.

I have a Mazda with a factory dual horn set up (look like Fiamms) and everyone hates that horn. Shrill, shrieky and loud.

I took my ailing Stebel off and replaced it with the dual tone Fiamms.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

""Dan, the dual horn (low/high) makes for a vicious loud combo that, while possibly not as loud as a Stebel, is unignorably (is that a word?) loud.

I have a Mazda with a factory dual horn set up (look like Fiamms) and everyone hates that horn. Shrill, shrieky and loud.

I took my ailing Stebel off and replaced it with the dual tone Fiamms.""
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If dual Fiamms are not as loud as a Stebel, they have got to be darned close. One of them is waaaaay loud. Plus no delay in actuation due to the Stebels air pump and I can't forget the fact that in all my years of riding I have never had any air horn last very long at all.

If I can afford the space under the flyscreen, I'll be cramming two inside there. If not, one is a bazillion times louder that the (meep meep) stock horn.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My '78 R100S came with the high tone Fiamm stock so I bought the factory (read that: too much $$) dual horn setup. They are fantastic and so effective that they saved my butt many times over the years. The older ones were screwed together so it was easy to take them apart to remove the occasional grasshopper, new ones aren't. I've installed them on all my cars since, and I've got the high tone in the Uly now.

Since this thread is starting to inspire me maybe I'll get going and install duals.
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Uly_man
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The bike has enough electrical problems as it is without adding any more.

Really?

I run 55w aux lights, HID low beam, the Stebel, an aux brake light with a flasher, heated clothes, heated grips, GPS, and usually forget my battery tender (still on the OEM battery from '06). I have a Kuryakyn voltmeter installed, and it caught the 77 connector on its way out one night; I replaced that the next day and that's the only "problem" I've had out of it."

Ratbuell. This bit "The bike has enough electrical problems as it is without adding any more" is because it is a VERY high un-switched load on a system not designed to take it without a relay and could make things worse. Yes you can use it without one but as said its not a good thing to do.

At the end of the day you may just get some pitting on the switch contacts and need to clean or replace the unit. On the other hand you sound like you want to do things "the right way". I trust your judgment highly with this bike and would hope that you trusted mine on some points. I do electrics real well.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This site is fun, my wife is about ready to shoot me right now! Turned up the speakers and playing with the sound clips.

http://www.wolo-mfg.com/elec.htm

I've got a Wolo Bad Boy in the garage right now, never been really interested enough to fit it to the Uly but my wife likes the noise, I'll probably put it in her car and steal back the Fiamms...

(Message edited by xbimmer on June 30, 2012)
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Mikef5000
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the Stebel on my Uly. No issues with it, and it blasts instantly (no delay). Definitely use a relay, It blew a 10 amp fuse on mine, which tells you how much power it pulls. Don't try to run that through the factory wire/switch/fuse that isn't made for it.

I'm wanting to go with something simpler on the new bike though, so I'll look into the Napa alternative. The factory horn on my Yamaha is way worse than the factory Buell horn. I'd rather yell and rev then hit the 'instant embarrassment' horn button.
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Motorfish
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I`ve used the Fiamm Freeway blaster, for a while now, with no problems. I did not use a relay, and I trimmed a little off the front to fit. It may not be the loudest, but it`s a lot better than the stock horn and was about $15. I can`t imagine how loud the dual ones are.
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone have a NAPA Part Number for the Low Note Blaster?
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The NAPA here had them hanging right on the wall to look at so no number is really needed. They are clearly marked in the upper right hand corner of the package for high and low tone.
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Glenn
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 07:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi, I have a Fiamm Freeway Blaster, low tone, along with the stock horn. The combo is LOUD and fits fine with a little bending of the stock horn bracket. My old post is here.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/408670.html
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for all the updates.

Regards
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