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Bdrag
Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know its a dead horse but I don't have the time or patients to search for it! Ahahaha.

None of the local dealers have the OEM air filters. If they did its like $55.00. SO I said screw it and found a K & N which I HATE the oil filters with a passion but bought it. $46.00.

My question is, I have a 2009 XB12X. I have a Special Ops semi gutted muffler. Not the loud one but one Odie did for me that still OEM looking and is not so loud my head hurts after riding all day. Will the computer compensate for the K & N or will I need to do a tune or buy a fuel controller? I am hitting Colorado in a few weeks and want to know if the bike will run in this mode?

The last time I hauled my bike to Colorado from Texas, upon unloading it the bike ran like shit! I remembered the treads that say 3000 rpm for 10 miles or 10 minutes. Boy it ran like shit for the first 5 minutes but after a few more miles it perked up and ran great the rest of the time there. Will it do the same thing with the k & n filter? Will it run at all?


BDRAG
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would bet that it won't even notice. The intake air flow change is not as pronounced as the difference in the exhaust flow.

The ECM can compensate for changes in altitude as well as minor changes in air flow. All of the hype and promotional BS that goes with a K&N filter would have you think you were adding a turbo charger. It only can allow the engine to suck in a bit more air volume because of less restriction, it cannot force more air through.

Put it on and run it.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought a K&N for my uly and all I noticed was a bit more intake honk.
The main reason that I bought it was so I can was and re-oil it like I have been on my X1 for years.
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, I likes that intake HONK!
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Buewulf
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought a K&N for the same reason you did. I have the stock muffler, and the bike FI behaves normally regardless of altitude. I am not a fan of oil and cloth for filtration either; but it does make a nice sound through the intake, and I dare say it MAY have smoothed things out a little at low revs.
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Yjsrule
Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not a fan of K&N but I'm a dirt rider as well so I put a UNI filter in mine.
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Bdrag
Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well All,

I got the K & N installed. First time I ever had the air box open. HAhahaa. What the hell, someone left a chocolate covered donut in my air box! Ahhahaaaaaa.

Man these bikes are layed out for the average Joe to work on. Popped the lips and fuel vent line and wahlah. WAY EASIER than the Strom or my LC 1500 Zukes. AHhaha.

Rode the bike around some tonight and its as it was before. No issues so I guess I am good to go. Thank you all for your honest comments and help.

BDRAG
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Uly_dude
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got the UNI filter and the K&N filter, but the stocker looks the best under a hero blue translucent cover! All three I would say work fine as long as they're not clogged with dust.
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FWIT

The NASCAR teams do not run the K&N at track that are "dirty".

Too many "fines" get pasts the filter into the engine.

YRMV
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't those NASCAR teams just rip apart the engine every two races anyways?

I'm not doubting that they don't use K&N filters. I'm actually surprised that they use much of a filter at all.

I guess they do cover a good number of miles even if it is in a circle over and over again.
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Jcbikes
Posted on Friday, June 22, 2012 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is is it possible to clean the stock filter and reuse it? Has any body done it?
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, June 22, 2012 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes sir, some of us washed the stock filter. I did mine with Dawn dish washing soap in a bucket. Then blow it gently with compressed air and let it dry overnight. I did it two times over 50,000 miles. Then I replaced it with a new one.
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Jcbikes
Posted on Friday, June 22, 2012 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Etennuly - So do you just fill a bucket with water and some detergent and soak the filter in it? how to you scrub it or clean the dirt from it? I want to try this out. Thanks...
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, June 22, 2012 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First I would blow any dust and loose stuff out of it, then mix a soapy bucket of water and repeatedly dunk it in and out, then gently blow it off and let it dry. I sprayed some Purple Cleaner on the oily spots and let it soak a few minutes before dunking.

It got kind of fuzzy after the second cleaning, so I did not do a third one.
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Jcbikes
Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2012 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks. I will give it a try today.
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2012 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nate

Actually, the Sprint Cup teams take them apart at 600 miles total usage.

The Nationwide and Truck Series are required to get 3 races per rebuild.

Wix is the filter of choice in all three of the garages.
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Jcbikes
Posted on Sunday, June 24, 2012 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cleaned mine yesterday in a bucket of soapy water and it worked great. Almost looks like new. Thanks!
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