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Buewulf
| | Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2012 - 03:38 pm: | 
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My 06 will do it too
I'm feeling robbed! Third gear power wheelies? No way my bike will do that unless maybe I have a foot on the rear peg and my knee on the passenger seat. But then I wouldn't consider that an unassisted power wheelie, either. Do you guys have aftermarket exhausts or something to give you a little extra snap? |
Desert_bird
| | Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2012 - 03:53 pm: |
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Up here at 7000 feet in Santa Fe, NM the only Uly powerwheelies I see are those posted on Youtube by lower elevation sea-creatures. The only way my '08 will get the front wheel 1" off the ground is if I slice the clutch while screaming close to redline on an incline. Just too violent on the bike for my taste. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2012 - 04:05 pm: |
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Softening your suspension all the way up makes a big difference as well, FWIW.
I go the other way and try and make the bike not wheelie. Not hard, as to a large degree I'm a chicken on the street bike.
(The KDX is another story, that thing is rarely on both wheels... wheeeeee!) |
Uly_man
| | Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 - 01:08 pm: |
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Its hard to say Buewulf as I do not know your bike, its setup or how you ride. My 06 bike was setup for what might be called "fast road riding" and controlled power out of bends. This bike has HUGE torque and makes most by 4k revs.
I would say it is either you, the engine is toast or more likely the rear suspension compression setup is way to soft. Ignore the book specs for suspension setup on a 06 bike as they are way out and rubbish. Or at least thats what I found with my 06 bike. |
Buewulf
| | Posted on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 12:38 pm: |
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The engine seems fine, and with the low mileage, it had better not be toast. Of course that doesn't mean it is set up properly either. I also rode an '07 Lightning for sale at a dealership, and it didn't feel any different powerwise.
My technique could be the problem, but even a newbie can power wheelie on accident. It just doesn't take that much skill, and I am not exactly new to idiotic antics either.
I personally found the suspension guide in the manual provided an excellent starting point. |
Uly_man
| | Posted on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 01:27 pm: |
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Buewulf. The bike should be fine. The only thing I can think of is that you have the rear compression very soft. If it is very soft the back end will "dive" or "hunker down" absorbing power from the engine. The suspension system on this bike is the best and most compliant of any bike I have ever had but as with any fully adjustable system it needs to be set up for what you want to do with it. Trust me B it can "make or break" a good bike and the reason some bikes have not been seen to "make the grade".
"I personally found the suspension guide in the manual provided an excellent starting point." The 08 bikes plus yes the 06 bike no. But thats just what worked for me as a base. |
North_of_55
| | Posted on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 08:49 pm: |
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Okay... so tonight the wife and I were on our way home and she pulled her EX500R off to the side and waved me by because she know's I like to go a little faster than she does on the gravel road that leads to our house.
I'm in 2nd as I went to roll past her (I'm not even sure how fast I was going... not fast) and I rolled on the throttle (all the way).
Out came an awesome roar and (you guessed it) up went the front tire. Yes, it was back off to avoid road rash time.
I'm not sure if the seafoam did it's thing... or if the photo of the throttle cam finally sank in. I've been riding a little more aggressively the past few days and the bike seems to be running a lot different! It has even stopped popping from the intake (once engine is warm).
The sound of the bike seems a lot different too... even accelerating lightly.
I find myself hoping for red lights just so that I can start off again!
Every time I get on this bike I can't wipe the grin from my face! This is exactly what the doctor ordered (and why I sold my strom).
Thanks for all of your information and comments.
If I can find some DCPR9EIX's I'll change the plugs, check for intake leaks and do a compression test. Until then things are good enough!
Dave |
Arry
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 01:31 am: |
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North, Lots of variation in performance being reported here. I am happy with my 07x, no running problems, but no 3rd gear power wheelies. Sometimes in 2nd, if timed just right, and other factors. sounds like you're getting sorted out. Good luck |
Saltcityjeff
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 01:45 am: |
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Hey North of 55, or anyone else - help me understand seafoam - I hope this doesn't make me stand out too bad as not being a hardcore wrencher. I can get jobs done that I need too - but I don't understand everything. Per Seafoam, I have seen it at the auto stores, but have never really understood its purpose. Can someone explain what scenarios one might use it verses not use it? Is it safe to just use to 'clean' things up even though I may not be experiencing any issues?
Also - this thread says the 06 suspension recommendations are not the best. I am ~190lbs geared up - what would you suggest on the suspension setup for road riding and twisties? I know it is very subjective - but what is a good starting point you all have found?
Thanks for the input,
Jeff |
Argentcorvid
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 11:31 am: |
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seafoam is a mixture of different petroleum products that acts as a solvent for gum, varnish and carbon deposits.
It's essentially diesel, white gas, and reagent-grade isopropyl alcohol in a specific mixture.
It magically makes old motors run like new (if the above mentioned problems are the only thing wrong with them) 
my dad has a Toro lawn mower that he bought 15+ years ago. it wasn't running like it used to and was getting difficult to start. He dumped some Seafoam in the gas tank the next time he filled it up and after a lot of smoke, it starts like the day he bought it. |
Saltcityjeff
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 01:12 pm: |
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Argentcorvid,
Is it safe to use as part of a maintenance schedule? Say every 10k miles to put a little in the gas tank to clean the pistons, valves, valve seats, etc? Does it harm any of the rings, seals, or gaskets it may come in contact with? I know it is petroleum based - but I gotta ask the questions. I probably should quit being lazy and hit up Google for some better education on the stuff... |
Buewulf
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 03:14 pm: |
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SaltCityJeff,
I've used Sea Foam with lots of stuff and never hurt anything. Lot's of people use it, so I'd say it has been battle tested pretty well. It can foul a plug if you use too much though.
Concerning the suspension settings, I found the recommendations in the manual to be a great starting point (I have an '06 too, and my gear-on weight is about the same as yours.) I dinked with it quite a bit, but I always ended up back at the suggested settings. I change it up a bit if I know I will be in the dirt, but for general street riding, I like the settings in the manual. It is a good compromise for handling and comfort. That is just my opinion. |
Etennuly
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 04:31 pm: |
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On my '06 I started at the manual's suggested points and made quarter turn changes over a period of days of riding to where it feels right.
I think the variances in the '06 set up is the long soft front springs. There can be a need to compromise for the front end diving under hard braking. |
Buewulf
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 04:46 pm: |
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The stock fork springs on the '06 do dive hard and bottom fairly easily. I never could find a setting that remedied that without making the bike behave nervously at a fast clip. I'll put some progressive springs in there when time comes to open them up. |
North_of_55
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 07:24 am: |
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I have done a lot of reading/speaking with people on the subject of seafoam.
My normal reaction to the the "liquid cure-alls" at the auto store is to avoid them altogether.
Normally I'd rather take a carb apart and clean/check each piece than dump something in the tank and cross my fingers. I have, however, had several friends who swear by seafoam.
I originally picked it up for my lawn tractor. It was hard to start, sometimes sputtered and coughed... a little seafoam in the tank and it ran perfectly within minutes of starting. I have since had similar experiences with other small engines.
As a side note: I drive a cummins powered Dodge Ram and, after the research I have done, will not put it in my truck! It is a dispersant and apparently this doesn't sit well with the diesel injection system.
I am also not completely sold on using it in oil. In a fuel injector the only way to get crud out is to disolve it and let it run through. I don't want to disolve every bit of sludge/crud in my engine and pass it through the entire lube system! But that is just my feeling on the subject.
To sum up my fealing on seafoam: Excellent product if used properly in certain applications. |
Saltcityjeff
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 10:21 am: |
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North_of_55 - thanks for the info! |
Uly_man
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 02:17 pm: |
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"The stock fork springs on the '06 do dive hard and bottom fairly easily. I never could find a setting that remedied that without making the bike behave nervously at a fast clip. I'll put some progressive springs in there when time comes to open them up." Buewulf. Add 10ml of heavy oil to each fork and then "back off" the compression to zero. Then add comp to suit your ride style. If you are not sure about this start with only 5ml per fork. Easy, cheap and you do not need new springs.
It MADE both my 06 and 2010 bikes. But you need to understand how to set the bike up. |
Ronmold
| | Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 03:02 am: |
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Had my Uly on the dyno, 78 RWHP but they said it was starving for fuel and I got a printout. I will need to adjust the ECM w/spy and see if I can get those 2nd gear wheelies! |
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