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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have one on my 06' and just ordered one for my son's 07. Al has them back ordered but says they are promised for 2/20/2012.
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Schwara
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does the "standard" color that these come in correspond with the wheel color of other Ulysses? My current wheels are black but I was thinking that Al told me that the standard 2010 color when ordered is magnesium. I wouldn't mind getting the front and rear in that color, if I could manage it, as it would brighten up the Uly a bit.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 2010 regular Uly wheels are the metallic magnesium color, and the rims are slightly heavier because they have reinforced rims. But 2010 wheels ARE available in black as well, in fact, I think I have one or two black ones in stock. The Metallic Mag colored wheels are a bit less expensive, though. They come WITH the bearings, seals, axle, and spacers. With any other color, you have to buy the wheel and the axle kit separately.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al, are you still able to get the diamond blue 2008 1125R color wheel? So far mine has held up for 20k miles, but the last thing I need is to have them fail half way through a trip.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2012 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can get them (front and rear) still, but the rear wheel in Diamond Blue (2 bearing only) is Pending Obsolete, with no superseding number given. The front is still coded active.

The 2010 3 bearing wheel is NOT made in all the colors that the 2 bearing wheels were made in. They only make the three bearing wheel in the 2010 colors, which boils down to Villian/Designer black (no red stripe), Translucent Red, and Uly Metallic Mag. There was a White wheel part number made, but TTBOMK none were ever produced. The Hero/Translucent Blue wheel was not made in the three bearing configuration, even though it shows up in the 2010 parts book, because the White 2010 model bikes came with BLACK wheels, not blue, at least for the US market. The legacy colors (Translucent Amber, Sunset Orange, and Stardust Silver) from earlier years were not produced or planned in the 3 bearing configuration.

Al
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 02:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

The Hero/Translucent Blue wheel was not made in the three bearing configuration,




Lies! : )

I've seen it in person. RCK00 has it on his 09 1125R.

I'll bug my dealer and have them do some checking, worst comes to worst I'll get whatever I can and have it powdercoated.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 03:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd be interested in knowing what the part number is for that one. It isn't in the parts book, and didn't appear on the 2010 US models.

But that isn't the diamond blue wheel that you asked about. I'm pretty sure that one isn't available as a 3 bearing wheel.

Al
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 03:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





I will probably need a hero blue eventually anyway for my XB, and a phantom black with stripe from my CR, but if what you say is true I'll have to improvise.

(BTW thank you for the speedy shipping on those belts, the CR has a rock in the belt, been there for at least 3000 miles, as long as I have a spare belt it won't break)
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Al_lighton
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmm, this is a strange one.

The 2010 XB parts book only lists the Translucent Blue wheel as a 2 bearing wheel, and it lists it only for the XB12R (2010 Black XB12R's had Blue wheels and windscreens, not red as in previous years..I'd missed that, was looking for a white/blue wheel version). The 2010 1125 Parts book didn't even list translucent Blue wheels, as the 2010 white and black 1125's had black wheels, not blue.

The Blue 2 bearing wheel listed in the 2010 parts book, G0309.02A8BYBX, is now Pending Obsolete, and doesn't have a superseding part number. But HDnet also says "FOR XB MODELS USE G1309.02A8YBX, FOR 1125R MODELS USE G1309.1AMYBX" in the part reference comments. This would indicate a 3 bearing wheel, as 1125 wheels and XB wheels are identical until axles are brought into the equation.

G1309.02A8YBX (XB) is listed as KIT, REAR WHEEL, TRANSLUCENT HERO BLUE , and it's price would indicate that, like the Uly wheel, it came with the axle and bearings and such. But it is OBSOLETE.

G1309.1AMYBX (1125) is listed as WHEEL KIT, REAR, TRANSLUCENT HERO BLUE , and like the XB version, would seem to be the full wheel kit with axle, and is also obsolete.

I can't find any pointers whatsoever to a 3 bearing translucent blue wheel only, with no axle kit, as in the other colors. But the fact that HD once upon a time assigned two different part numbers to the kit would seem to indicate that a 3 bearing Hero Blue wheel once upon a time existed, even though the parts book says that a 2010 firebolt would have had a 2 bearing wheel.

If someone has a part number for a axle-less, bearing-less 3 bearing hero Blue wheel, I'd like to know about it. IF someone has one of those black/blue 2010 Firebolts, please look closely at it to see if it has a 3 bearing or 2 bearing wheel.

Al
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Pnw_uly
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, enough of all that - - are the standard magnesium colored 3 bearing wheels ready for shipment yet? ? ?



Yes, I'm on the waiting list...
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T9r
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess I will have to get my wheels special coated Hero Blue(or other color royal blue) on top the magnesium tone to go with a 2010 rim, ugh.
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T9r
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since the 3 bearing hero blue rear rim is obsolete does that mean EBR can start selling them and be our supplier?
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

T9r, you have just given me an idea, I don't want the big ugly heavy XB wheels anymore, I'll call up EBR and get some hubless sexy goodness : )
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Ulynut
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think Mike had those wheels powder coated, Froggs.
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Jlewis
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al,

Are those black 2010 wheels easy to come by? My XT only has 6k miles and I have not had a problem with the stock wheel bearings, but I know I will eventually. I was not planning on getting a 2010 wheel, but I did not know you had them in black. Is this something I need to get while I can, or will I be able to purchase one rather easily in say a year or two? What is the cost for your black ones? Thanks
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Someday
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy,
Stop messing around and go carbon fiber!
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have no crystal ball on what HD will discontinue and when. They're available now, and I'd bet they'll be available in 2 years. But HD could discontinue them tomorrow.

At the moment, I have three 3-bearing black wheels on the shelf, and 1 black front wheel. I just put them up on the web site yesterday, see
http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/17900.html
and
http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/17901.html

The Uly wheels are still showing a 2/20 BO clear date. For those waiting, cross your fingers.
Al
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Buellerxt
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I didn't realize that the front was a three bearing wheel in 2010 but I guess it only makes sense that it would be. I 'may' have read of a failed front bearing once but has anyone on here ever had a front bearing problem? As rare as hens teeth, or at least close? : ) Thanks.
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Wbrisett
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2012 - 07:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speaking of 2010 wheels. I bought the 2010 Axle kit from EBC with the intention of pressing the bearings in myself on a 2010 wheel. However, when it came time to buy the wheel itself for my Uly, I ended up going with Al at American Sport Bike and for a great price he pressed them in before shipping the wheel to me. So, that's the long way of saying I have a 2010 axle kit available for cheap if anybody wants it.

Wayne
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Al_lighton
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2012 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The front wheels are NOT three bearing wheels. They didn't change in 2010 at all.

The only issue with the front wheels is that some of the dealer info implies that they come without the bearings/spacers installed, like the 2010 3 bearing wheels. However, I've yet to receive one that did not have the bearings and spacers already installed.
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Uly_man
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2012 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I 'may' have read of a failed front bearing once but has anyone on here ever had a front bearing problem? As rare as hens teeth, or at least close? Thanks."

I did on my 06 Uly. Not failed but with only small wear, which can not be detected with the wheel on the bike, you can "feel" the change if you are able to notice the difference. Its the sort of thing some people "ride through" not understanding that part wear will, with use, affect the bikes handling and the XB is VERY sharp tool that needs all it bits to be right to work the way it was designed to do.
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Buellerxt
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2012 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Al. What a great source for Buell parts/info. you are! : )
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Court
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2012 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>What a great source for Buell parts/info. you are!

You ain't seen nothing . . . wait till you meet his wife !
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've noticed that she seems to be the one sending parts to me. ; )

Hey guys, Remember to send me your old wheels. I'm trying to start a wheel collection. I only have two colors so far.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al,
It is now the 21st. Have those 2010 wheels that were promised for the 20th shown up for you yet?
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Al_lighton
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, I'll check into them today. They weren't "promised" for the 20th, it doesn't work that way. HD publishes their backorder clear date as their estimate of when the wheels will start shipping. It doesn't mean that's the date that I will get them, it's when they THINK they will start shipping. IF the date holds, I should get some of them later this week.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks. Not that big of a hurry this time of year anyways. Just wondering.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are still coded "Backorder, B/O Clear date of 2/20". If they were shipping, they'd be coded "Active". But, I've received B/O stuff before when it was still coded backorder. Sometimes one system isn't keeping up with the other. So we're still waiting.

Al
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Al_lighton
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

VERY BAD NEWS......

As of today, the Uly rear three bearing wheel (magnesium tone) is coded "B/O CLR BY 07/13/12;RESOURCING"

Yes, you read that right...JULY of 2012.

This is NOT good. It means that the 15 or so wheels that I have on order won't be here any time soon. But, reading between the lines, it probably also means (guess on my part) that ALL Buell wheels currently sourced from Enkei are going to be unavailable soon. And it COULD mean that there will be a BIG price spike on wheels since the volume won't be there, and NRE costs will likely be incurred as another casting manufacturer is brought online.

Black 3 bearing wheels are still available, and I've ordered more of those as well. But it appears that my orders on those (and the axle kits) took all of the last ones and those are now back ordered now as well, with BO clear dates in early March. I'll have some more of black 3 bearing wheels here soon, and I already have a few here, but the ones on back order are certainly questionable based on what just happened on the Uly wheel backorder. I'll believe those when I see them.

I'll contact all customers that have orders for the magnesium tone Uly wheels individually to see what you want to do. You don't need to post that here, just respond to my email when you get it.

Bummer....This is not giving me warm fuzzies at all.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any chance Enkei could produce them aftermarket? Or does HD own the tooling? Or is there a non compete?
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