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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just changed out the rear ULY plug on my boy's bike yesterday. I pray that Buell engineers an easier plug change on the AX then he did the ULY. Easy enough getting that plug in an out but not so easy putting on that boot and knowing if it is completely on. Then I get the bike running and then reach in on the top of that boot to get hammered by electrical shock. Still not sure if that wouldn't happen again if I put my finger in there and not about to find out. Bike is running good again but not sure about riding it in the rain.
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Motorbike
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I ever end up with a Super Tenere, the first thing I will do is repaint it in a Racing Red color, like the molded in color of the plastics on my XT. I HATE that metallic blue on the Yamaha. That color might be OK on a street only bike, as long as it's not mine. Thanks.

Sorry guys, just my $.02 worth...
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tenere means Heavy in English.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is a hassle to change the plugs on an XB. Though worst case it is a 90 minute job (30 minutes to rotate the engine down, 30 minutes to rotate it up, and 30 minutes to heli-coil whatever holes I hacked up : ) ).

Whenever I do it, I think "this is a rediculous amount of work". Then I look at the clock, realize it's only been about an hour, and wonder what I'm whining about.

On the up side, the plugs will sit in there happily for 20k miles if you wanted... so you don't have to do it often, and you may end up ready to rotate the engine for some other reason by then anyway.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Whenever I do it, I think "this is a rediculous amount of work". Then I look at the clock, realize it's only been about an hour, and wonder what I'm whining about.




Well, you can change the plugs on an 1125R in a few minutes. Hell once you get the airbox off, you can remove the front plug in about 30 seconds with one hand while using the other to hold a camera : )
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Motorbike
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, you can change the plugs on an 1125R in a few minutes. Hell once you get the airbox off, you can remove the front plug in about 30 seconds with one hand while using the other to hold a camera

Then you have the rest of your whole weekend to adjust the valves!
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7873jake
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had an old BSA single that you could change the plug on faster than you could change your mind.

It left the rest of the weekend available to do the rest of the rebuild before the work week commute started up again.
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Britchri10
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thing is w/the old BSA's...
If you didn't check the plug regularly it would quite often spontaneously eject itself!
(Former C15 owner, amongst others)
Chris C
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



This is an ugly motorcycle.





This is an ugly motorcycle.





This is an ugly motorcycle.





This is an ugly motorcycle.



This is an ugly motorcycle and rider.



This is an ugly motorcycle.




Non of them are "bad" motorcycles, but they are needlessly unattractive.

ALL of them passed the design committee and the bean counters. This is the best they could come up with?

(Message edited by Froggy on January 05, 2012)
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only ugly ones were the BMW and the Katana. The rest of them are nice in their own ways. That BMW is truly a BowelMovementonWheels.
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Tootal
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I changed my plugs in less than a half hour and that included getting another beer! Agreed though, the hardest part is making sure the rear wire is on correctly!

As far as the ease of maintenance on a Beezer, once you drop kick the Amal carb and replace it with a Mikuni, there's not much else to do!



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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Froggs. : |

: D : D : D
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone ever put a sleeker seat/tail on a Uly? That's the major area that couls use some aesthetic improvement in my view. The seat is way huge, even for me (6'-3", 220LB). I like the other XBike seat sizes much better.

Really like the Uly. It will be tough to top.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From time to time I pop the seats off my bikes. If they can't be ridden often enough I gotta hook up the battery charger. One day I set the Uly seat on my '02 ultra just because I had no where else to put it. I noticed that it did not fit because it was to big!
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Conchop
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speaking of BSA's - Most of the late 60's and very early 70's, BSA produced the aesthetically pleasing bikes. Look at the flow of the side covers. Look at the seat, with the little rise at the rear [ form and function ] The motor was sleek with its flowing lines on the top end and the points and primary covers.

Looked like motorcycles instead of some movie script bat man bike.

Enjoyed the pics Ft bstrd - especially the BMW - I almost felt the revulsion in my gut. The Ducati was another Malox moment.

IMHO - the KTM ADV bikes styling makes me .... mmmm .... want to walk away - at the dealership, I don't even want to sit on one. I understand they are an excellent ride though. Again - the athletic girl friend with powerful body and the "OMG a train wreck face" - but this KTM has hairy man hands too!
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7873jake
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A recent barn find, (the 1968 BSA 441 at the front of the row...not sure if its a Star Fire or Shooting Star) replete with belt to hold the tank on and the stock seat with the rise at the rear.

This thing wanted to run almost from the get-go. Changed the oil and checked a few 'criticals' and she cranked right up.



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Fdl3
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

D'oh! If this Ducati DS1000 Multistrada is *supposed* to be an "ugly" motorcycle, then why does it look so good to me?!


2006 Ducati DS1000 Multistrada
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Conchop
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BSA's had a form - flow - and function that set them apart from the other Brit bikes.

Their Rocket III was the first production bike to hit 132 MPH



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Conchop
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really didn't care for the styling of the original rocket 3 - but there are some others that appear to be more palatable.

Symmetry and balance seemed more aesthetically appeasing on the BSA's than the other Brit bikes. The original Honda 750 4 was symmetrical and balanced too.



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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This place has all the old Brit bikes for sale. Truly a place to visit if you love bikes from the days of yore.
http://www.baxtercycle.com/pre_owned_list.asp
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Conchop
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for baxter. Here's a bike that changed the world.





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Conchop
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the styling on an ADV bike would benefit from the balance and symmetry of some of these designs.

The Honda SL 350 was one of my favorite DP bikes - rude and crude - dirty dog cheap - economical - laughable suspension - strong lil motor -BUT - balanced and symmetrical lines. However - the radius on a lot of the body work was way off.

Nonetheless, IMHO there was more style in this lil bike than the new Terere.





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Conchop
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Vincent is the bike to compare with Buell. They were ahead of their time and the craftsmanship, fit, finnish, engineering, and performance set the standard that all motorcycle manufacturers should try to aspire to.

Not meaning to stoke Erik's ego, but I think the new 1190 gets close to the masterpiece.

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Boogeyman
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe we should AX him again when they are going to be released? Sorry. Had to.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow. People in here surely are picky about the looks of bikes! I'm hard pressed to find a bike I don't like the looks of, this one being the exception:

I haven't an issue with any other bikes posted in this thread. Some aren't my favorite, but if it does what I want, I wouldn't hesitate for a moment.

Frankly, if I were Erik, spending endless hours and dollars attempting to form a bike that does everything we want, I'd be slamming my head on my desk reading about all of you yelling how 'pretty' it needs to be.
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Luftkoph
Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In 1973 I was 16,hanging out at collins cycle center in palm harbor Fla. when in rode the best looking bike ever made bar none,the guy was riding it around the country and just stopped in to get some minor maintenance done,
Don't know how his ride turned out but I've never been the same it was the final dose that put me over the edge

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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/05/a-vincent-bla ck-shadow-for-the-modern-era/
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Luftkoph, that's a Triumph Hurricane. I loved that bike and had a chance to buy one and didn't. Major FAIL! It's a Triumph Trident with a tank, panels and exhaust designed by Craig Vetter if memory serves me.
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Luftkoph
Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes indeed it is an x75 hurricane,they had a bsa rockett 111
engine,this all happened as bsa was going down the crapper


such an elegant looking bike
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Triumph had bought BSA and put the Rocket lll enginee in the Trumpet. I have a T-160 Trident which is all the same mechanicals as the Hurricane minus the awesome body work and organ pipes!
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