| Author | Message | ||
     Dtaylor |
I want to try a stock muffler on my XB12X. There is a nearly new stock XB12scg muffler available to me locally. I understand from other threads that the Uly kickstand may interfere with the standard tail pipe. I'm guessing a trim on the tailpipe might be in order? If that is all that is necessary, I'm willing to live with a bit of carbon on the kickstand foot... If anyone has experience fitting a regular XB12 muffler to an XB12X, I'm all ears! (Message edited by dtaylor on December 17, 2011) | ||
| Etennuly |
The only difference is the tail pipes. More a swing arm clearance problem on the tip(s) because of the longer travel suspension. And the longer side stand. It can work though, I've done it with a Buell race pipe. Might have to modify the tail pipe tip(s) which is easy if you can cut and weld. It is a simple steel can in that area. | ||
| Nillaice |
i ran a R pipe on mine for a bit. the kickstand did hit it just the foot pad hit right in the center of the outlet. it didn't mar either the muffler or kickstand after a thousand miles. i didn't mind the carbon on the kickstand, and i liked that the kickstand stuck out a little more, and was easier to put down. | ||
| Pontlee77 |
I had the same for some time, a friend helped me cut out part of the tip to avoid the stand hitting it. | ||
| Teeps |
The foot of the side stand gets sooty. When you hit a square edge bump (just right) you may hear the side stand bang on the tip. Other than that; The bike won't care. | ||
| Hughesatron |
I have run a standard xb12 muffler on my uly for the past 20k+ miles. You'll have to chop an inch or so off the tip, but you don't need to do any welding or anything. The end of the kickstand lines up perfectly on the exhaust port, so it gets sooty. The other option is to put a little spacer on the kickstand such that the stand does not close all the way when in the up position. All you need is about an inch or so. | ||
| Buellhusker |
Photos please | ||
| Dtaylor |
I bit the bullet and traded my Drummer for a nearly new standard XB12 muffler. I sprayed a few coats of BBQ paint on the pristine factory finish in hopes of postponing rust. I fitted the new muffler on my Uly this morning. The kickstand does rest on the muffler tip, but I've decided to go with Hughesatron's suggestion and at some point add a spacer to the kickstand stopper up near the pivot. I think that could be achieved by securing an L-shaped bit to the unused threaded hole near the pivot, the bottom of the L will be the spacer. I installed a new front muffler strap. I notice that old one used a self-locking nut; this one has a revised part number, and uses a standard nut with some thread locker pre-applied to the bolt.      (Message edited by dtaylor on December 26, 2011) | ||
| Sharkguy |
If you took a dremel to that ss add on on the exhaust tip would it still hit the exhaust itself? Perhaps a bit of cutting on the tip after that would be the fix. | ||
| Dtaylor |
As it is, the kickstand foot contacts the inner pipe and the tube of the kickstand contacts the stainless faux tip. I'm inclined to add a spacer -- I think that will be an easier job and it will be more aesthetically pleasing. I'll post a picture when the spacer is installed. (Message edited by dtaylor on December 26, 2011) | ||
| Portero72 |
Not to hijack, but kinda curious-what was the reason for trading the Drummer? | ||
| Dtaylor |
All the usual reasons. On work days, I feel a bit self-conscious starting the bike up in the wee hours. I like my neighbours. As much as I liked the sound of the Drummer, I was finding the drone at cruising speed a little tiresome, even with the baffle insert. The nice thing about this is that if I ever want to go loud again, there are plenty of options. Finding a stock exhaust for a long frame, now that has been difficult! | ||
| Teeps |
Dtaylor Posted on Monday, December 26, 2011 As it is, the kickstand foot contacts the inner pipe and the tube of the kickstand contacts the stainless faux tip. I'm inclined to add a spacer -- I think that will be an easier job and it will be more aesthetically pleasing. Ironically, you can't see the kickstand foot contacting the muffler tip when you're on the bike... And, believe me no one else will notice it either. Don't ask how I know. | ||
| Dtaylor |
@ Teeps: I meant more aesthetically pleasing than what I might achieve trying to cut or notch the tip with my primitive tools.  Other than the occasional clang from the odd square bump, no rattling or clanging? | ||
| Teeps |
Never heard rattling, and only heard a clank/clunk under two conditions. 1.when retracting the side stand. 2.as mentioned before, certain square edge bumps. | ||
| Brucespoint |
My 07 came to me Very well sorted out, but with an XB9 Muffler. PO said he liked the sound better, and it is Sweet. It does NOT interfere with the kickstand. Have the stock muff in good shape. But... It Runs REALLY Good, off idle is good enough to ride Uly Trials! If it ain't broke... Why I would Love to see another Uly, To side by side check out the difference. Mine is the only Uly, and damn near the only Buell in NW Ontario! Somebody come up for Rides next season! b. | ||
| Dtaylor |
Took a bit of shelf bracket, drilled a hole in it and made it into an L. Secured it with a stainless 1/4" bolt:    | ||
| Skinstains |
Just make sure it rests well past the "break" of the spring. IMO you should take that stocker off and ceramic coat it ASAP ! Inside (as best as can be) and out. After less than 6 months my '09' Uly muffler looked like is was used as an anchor in the Atlantic ! Junk ! My dealer replaced it under waranty after much coaxing. I took the replacement to have it powdercoated before I even opened the box. Big mistake, as the parts expert ordered me an XB12R muffler instead of the XB12X muffler that I brought him. That he still had lying on the floor behind the glass door in the dealership when I picked up the replacement. At any rate, the year of manufacture seems to be the important part of any Buell muffler. The piece I had powdercoated looks just like the original. I'm assuming that you got an older muffler as I believe any coating on the newer steel mufflers is a waste of time and money. The mufflers on my '03'-'03'-'04'-'05' XB's are all still OK but that '09' is junk. Header too. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Finding a stock exhaust for a long frame, now that has been difficult! The exhausts are not different based on frame length. The only differences are model-specific, and they are strictly limited to exit tip design. The muffler doesn't touch the frame anyway (and neither does the sidestand) - they hang from the engine cases. The Ulysses is "taller", so it has a longer sidestand that, when retracted, sticks into the exhaust exit flow as shown above. Standard height XB's have a sidestand that stops in front of the exhaust tip. This is why the Ulysses has the "out and up" exit tip - to route the exhaust flow over the sidestand, instead of having it blow on the foot. | ||
| Dtaylor |
The exhausts are not different based on frame length. The only differences are model-specific I stand corrected -- I was working under the assumption that all long frame XBs were taller and used the curly muffler tip. As a new Bueller, I must say thanks to everyone -- the members of this community are an indispensable source of information. Quite frankly, BadWeb had pretty much everything to do with me deciding to make the Uly my next bike! Doug | ||
| Ratbuell |
Nope. The XB12Ss was the Lightning Long. Ulysses frame, street suspension. The STT was also a long, but had more of a UlyXT suspension height on it. |
