| Author | Message | ||
     Ratbuell |
06 Ulysses. Bone stock mechanicals. Just shy of 30k miles, one owner. Dumped it getting it out of the back of a pickup a week ago. Pouring rain, un-bedlined-truck, front wheel locked up and I just...got out from under it. Dropped it on the right side. BAS did its job. Picked up, cycled the switch, started back up, no probs. Let it idle till I got the ramps put away and the truck parked, and parked the Uly in the garage. Fast forward to yesterday AM. Start the bike for the first time since the dump, push it out to warm up while I'm suiting up. Notice..hmm...didn't I just adjust the primary? Shouldn't be that noisy...cam side of the engine was LOUDER. Oil light was on. Been running for...oh...2 minutes? 3? Kill switch. Check swingarm, chock full. Cycle key, restart, same thing. Light stays on. Bagged it and took the jeep because I was late. Last night get home, pull the chin spoiler off, pull the oil pump output hose (from the pump to the cooler) off at the pump. Start the bike, get sprayed with oil. OK, it has oil pressure at the pump. Hook it back up, start the bike just to see what happens....and the light goes out like normal and it runs like a champ for 30+ miles.  Anyone see this before? Only thing I can think of is a stuck check-ball on the anti-drainback valve...I'll pull it and clean it next oil change. Either that or it was just angry with me for dropping it, so it dislodged a piece of schmutz that blocked...something. | ||
| Nvr2old |
I've seen it on my son's Z1000, when he changes the oil. Seems to get an air bubble in the line somewhere. Had to loosen the filter a bit with bike running and oil began flowing again, oil light goes out and all is well. | ||
| Timberwolf |
Had that happen to me once on the road. Dropped it on the right side in a parking lot. When I started it to leave oil light came on. A friend riding with me thought maybe it was an air bubble in the oil line and we pushed it to a steep hill and parked it facing nose down for a couple minutes hoping the bubble would back out. Don't KNOW that is what happened, but it worked and hasn't happened again. | ||
| Ratbuell |
OK. I'll buy that. At least I pulled that line BEFORE I went and bought a new oil pump! I'll just keep riding (and quit dropping) it  | ||
| Ulynut |
Yeah, quit dropping it.  But when you do (like I do sometimes), wait 5-10 minutes before you start it again just to keep that from happening. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
You might have pressure but the oil light sender wire might have been mashed to ground somewhere. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Oh, no...it was definitely TAPPING. That was what made me notice it in the first place. I did check all my wires since I had the front pulley cover off anyway; all that mess in there looked fine, no buggered spots anywhere on the harness. | ||
| Uly_man |
Rat. Yes is can happen. The TAPPING is no oil but if its gone now and you did not rev the engine you will prob be ok. To be sure you will ned to check the bearings. | ||
| Tootal |
When I use to go to Daytona Bike Week every year it was always fun to watch somebody that just trailered their Harley down and were starting it up for the first time after unloading it. It would sound like a diesel and scare the crapola out of the owner! They would always shut it down and say "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot"! I walked over and told them to fire it up and just let it idle for a minute and it would get quiet again. The hydraulic lifters would bleed out due to the bouncing on the trailer for 15 hours. You just have to wait for them to pump up again and with cold thick oil it takes a little while. The looks on their faces was always priceless! | ||
| Ratbuell |
Yeah, I've been there / done that. This was 2 minutes on its side, followed by a quick restart and five minutes of idling. Then a week of sitting. And the "event" was five or six minutes of idling, where it got progressively LOUDER, not quieter. There was definitely a block / air pocket in there somewhere. | ||
| Thejosh |
Too bad you can't prime these things like an old V8. How would you go about purging the system if Rats bike does truly indeed have an air pocket? Would changing the oil filter (filled) help? Josh | ||
| Ratbuell |
Once I pulled the line off the oil pump output (line from pump to cooler), at the pump, and started it for three seconds (sacrificing a pair of shoes)...hooked it back up and have been riding the pi$$ out of it for three days...it's happy as a clam. Guess I "bled" it? If that's actually what the problem was...I hate "fixing" something and I don't know how or why it worked... | ||
| Hughlysses |
Joe- I think that's exactly what you did. I've seen posts here of people changing the oil on their XB's without pre-filling the oil filter and having something similar happen. I think if you get a substantial amount of air in the filter it just won't pump oil. That might be an easier thing to try if it happens again- remove the oil filter and fill it to the top before re-starting the engine. A good thing about these engines is the roller bearing bottom end could probably run for ~30 minutes with no oil pressure (at idle) without hurting anything. I'm sure your engine is fine. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
My bike did the same thing. Turned out to be a loose battery connection. Recheck the battery terminals. The drop cold have knocked one loose. |
