| Author | Message | ||
     Jetranger_2000 |
after a stupid error I manage to drain all my primary oil instead of the engine oil. After consulting the manual I removed the cover and discovered this white sticky substance. I have no idea if its normal or if its water contamination. Is this normal Im gonna post a pic in a few minutes!!! | ||
| Froggy |
It is a Uly Frappuccino. It is usually due to water getting into the primary case, usually through the clutch cable adjustment boot. | ||
| Jetranger_2000 |
heres the pic  | ||
| Jetranger_2000 |
how do I fix this or prevent this from happening | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Your Uly most likely spotted Froggy's 1125 and later had a nocturnal emission. | ||
| Blake |
Ensure the rubber boot at clutch cable adjuster, halfway down the cable, is properly positioned and snugged against the smooth metal ferule. If the neck of the boot is off the ferule it will leave a gap between it and the cable where water can enter. A tiny hose clamp works well to hold the boot in place if you feel the need. | ||
| Argentcorvid |
it was just the gasket and/or cover that was like that right? if so, it could just be due to condensation. if not, you got water in your primary somehow. another place to check is the transmission breather vent hose, which has a tendency to lay against the rear header and get a hole melted into it. | ||
| Jetranger_2000 |
FYI bike only has 4500 Miles I will check all the suggestions Thanks | ||
| Johnboy777 |
I used a small zip tie on mine. . | ||
| Uly_dude |
Jetranger, when was the last time you changed that oil? Right after I had bought my bike, I didn't think to check this part of the bike. I was havin so much fun driving around this bad boy, I thought all was perfect. The bike had 7K miles on it and the old owner said it had a fresh oil change. Shortly there after, my clutch bearings fried. When I removed this cover I had the exact same thing as you, maybe worse and the oil looked like chocolate milk. I'm guessing the previous owner never changed this cavity. I think alot of people think of this like the gear case on their manual transmission on their car. You never have to look at it. Since then I only run synthetic(amsoil)and I haven't seen that yet. Of course I change it every spring now to. Hopefully you "accidentally" saved your bearings. | ||
| Ourdee |
mmmmmmilk shake. Just a little water. All is not lost. You can use a small zip tie on that boot. | ||
| Dennis_c |
longer rides in the cold  to help get rid of moisture | ||
| Dr_greg |
Lessee, what did we call that thread back then? I'll show you mine if you show me yours...  It comes from short commutes in the wintertime. --Doc | ||
| Ratbuell |
RIDE LONGER. You need to heat up the oils (your engine does this too...imagine that crap coating your bearings!) and keep them hot, so they burn off the condensation. Short rides create MORE condensation. This is the 30 minute rule. Any less than that, and you're building a milkshake. Take the long way, or (like I've been forced to do this season) take the car. Sucks for us riders, but the bike will thank you. | ||
| Froggy |
I rode from NY to Michigan, Spiderman popped my cover open to adjust my clutch, and I still had a frapachino. Riding longer wont cut it. I'm glad that this is non issue on bikes worth riding. | ||
| Steveford |
No matter how long you ride during cold weather (winter time) you'll still get some mung build up. My commute is an hour to 75 minutes each way and I still get a little mung but nothing like that mess. If you ride in the winter, change the oil more frequently. | ||
| Nillaice |
it's the same way mayonaise is made. what is happening to make the white goop is called Emulsion. once the oil is emulsified with the condensation, it needs to be changed. riding longer only helps prevent this from happening. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
A little condensed crap isn't going to hurt anything. But... If you change the fluid and the fluid itself looks like that=trouble. The shop replaced my clutch bearing and said my tranny fluid looked like ovaltine+milk. They thought I was crossing rivers but it was just rainy. I have since added a zip tie to the top of my clutch adjuster and it seems to be fine. | ||
| Motorbike |
I'm glad that this is non issue on bikes worth riding. Oooohhh, now that hurts, Froggy! I'll bet you would trade your potential stator problems for any of these guys' frappuccinos any day!  | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Time to stuff a sock in the oil cooler. The heat from the crackcase will help heat the tranny. | ||
| Spacecapsule1 |
dont forget the 1125 gauge clusters and leaking clutches...froggy. | ||
| Froggy |
Nope, I don't have stator issues, I fixed it for good. 
Never had any cluster issues, and I had my one leaky clutch fixed for good faster than anyone here can change their oil. My biggest issue to date has been my crank breathers keep coming out of the airbox, but it hasn't actually bothered me enough to have the dealer fix it, I'll have it done when I drop it off for the next service. Enjoy your 77 connectors, crappy cranks, dim headlights, excessive vibrations, cracked ECMs, seizing actuators, snapping bag latches, fragile throttle body shafts, paperclip clutch holders, clunky transmissions, endless heat radiation, finicky TPSes, flimsy clutch cables, subpar shift linkage, sillyputty kickstands, endless electrical gremlins, and uly frappuchinos 30,000+ miles on two 1125s, the reliably and performance are lightyears ahead of every air cool Buell I've ridden. (Message edited by froggy on September 15, 2011) | ||
| Crusty |
That Frappachino will cause your clutch hub bearing to die an early and expensive death. It's most commonly caused by water entering the Primary case through the clutch cable at the adjuster. After having my clutch hub bearing fail twice, I started packing grease around the adjuster, and sealing the upper end of the sleeve with a small zip tie. I haven't had any recurring moisture in my primary since I started doing that. Placing the adjuster where it will be subjected to maximum spray from the front wheel in wet conditions is not the best idea. I personally think that replacing the cable with a hydraulic setup makes a lot more sense; Especially on an Adventure Tourer. | ||
| Tootal |
I read about this a long time ago and preventatively (is that a word?  ) put the wire tie on the cable adjuster cover. I've ridden a lot of rain and never had any problems with the milkshake. | ||
| Jetranger_2000 |
Any chance someone could post a pic of the clutch cable zip tie mod. I have no clue how this would prevent water ingress | ||
| Darrell |
I'm waiting on bearings for my clutch from just this situation. My bearings lasted 5000 miles after first finding this in my primary. This is not from just condensation. there's way too much water in there for it to look like that. Like others have said, it's water getting past the boot on the clutch cable. The parts aren't horribly expensive, but you'll need a few specialty tools to replace the bearings if they go bad. Oh, and ordering XB-9 gearing and other farkles just cause you'll have it apart adds to the replacement cost as well. -darrell | ||
| Bike_pilot |
jetranger, you put a zip tie round the top of the rubber boot covering the clutch cable adjuster to keep the boot tight and sealing. Look at the lower front of your bike, it'll be totally obvious. While you are looking at it, make sure there aren't any holes in the outer clutch sheath -- this usually happens from the cable retainer breaking and allowing the cable to touch the exhaust. | ||
| Danair |
After doing my breather mod, I noticed a film on the case next to the small filter above the drain valve. Opened the valve and nothing but water came out. I would guess thats why there's a tranny breather. | ||
| Motorbike |
Enjoy your 77 connectors, crappy cranks, dim headlights, excessive vibrations, cracked ECMs, seizing actuators, snapping bag latches, fragile throttle body shafts, paperclip clutch holders, clunky transmissions, endless heat radiation, finicky TPSes, flimsy clutch cables, subpar shift linkage, sillyputty kickstands, endless electrical gremlins, and uly frappuchinos. You forgot defective wheel bearings. | ||
| Froggy |
I didn't, the 1125 uses the same wonderful wheel  | ||
| Spacecapsule1 |
awww come on now froggy.... go easy on our beloved xb's... we all realize you didn't get along very well with yours, but we happen to like them. 1125's aren't without their faults too... lets all be friends.  | ||
| Motorbike |
I didn't, the 1125 uses the same wonderful wheel Oops, I never thought of that, you are absolutely right again Froggy! |
