| Author | Message | ||
     Mattmcc00 |
Been having a "tinky" sound when i give it some acceleration. Kind of like marbles bouncing around. Put a little seafoam in the gas, the oil, and the air intake via throttle plate, and presto! All gone. No more marbles. Also changed the oil after a bit of riding to clean out any gunk that the seafoam liquefied. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Sounds like spark knock (detonation). If the Seafoam cleared it up, that likely means it was carbon build up in the combustion chambers, and putting it in the intake is likely what got rid of the combustion chamber carbon. I've seen people dis Seafoam as being fairly worthless, but I've had good results with it too. | ||
| Bike_pilot |
Good information. When I was turning wrenches (on cages) for a living the BG treatment stuff (similar thing, one can to spray in the intake, another that gets sucked in via special tool and vacuum system, another to go in the gas tank) seemed to work really well for similar carbon-buildup issues. I suspect the seafoam stuff is probably similar. | ||
| Fltwistygirl |
We are huge fans of seafoam. Learned about it when we were schooling ourselves on the quirks of owning a K75. Use it at home as well as on the training bikes/trikes at the school. We don't even mess with the small cans any more, buy it in the gallon jug. Not sure where it is produced but their sales are based in Eden Prairie, MN. Stand behind their product too: "Your money's worth or your money back" | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Seafoam works. Period. | ||
| Portero72 |
How much did you use? And what was your technique for the intake? | ||
| Andymnelson |
Technique? Pour it down the intake with the bike running until your problems go away....and do it outside, NOT in the garage! | ||
| Chorizo |
Are you saying pour it down the air intake? Increase idle while doing so? Im interested because my uly has been pinging a bit lately. I thought it was the hot weather. The other day on 100 degree ride I added octane boost on the road and it did the trick. A friend has a Sportster and he says "they ping a bit, dont worry" Should we expect a little pingin?} | ||
| Hughlysses |
Just don't pour a SLUG down the intake or you may hydro-lock the engine and that will NOT end well. From Seafoam's website:
Pictures and more instructions here: http://www.seafoamsales.com/how-to-use-sea-foam-mo tor-treatment.html Note that your engine will blow out MASSIVE QUANTITIES of white smoke until the Seafoam clears out of the intake and combustion chambers. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
My father said that an old windex sprayer full of water to the intake will clean up an engine pretty well. What is actually in seafoam? Is it just alcohol? remember "dri-gas"? That was just alcohol. Perhaps it's been reformulated now since the gas already has far more alcohol than a little bottle would add. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Googled a bit and found it: 25% Cleaner>Naptha 60% Stabilizer>Kerosine 15% Oxygenate> Isopropyl Alcohol (common Rubbing Alcohol) So zippo lighter fluid, rubbing alcohol, and kerosene. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Natex, Straight from the MSDS (material safety data sheet)www.seafoamsales.com/component/option,com.../id,26 6/task.../view,file/ Pale oil - 40 to 60% Naphtha - 25 to 35% Isopropyl alcohol - 10to 20% What is pale oil- PALE OILS are light coloured, non-staining naphthenic oils refined from specially selected wax-free crude through the use of severe hydrogenation. This process produces oils of excellent initial colour and colour stability while maintaining their compatibility with most synthetic elastomers. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
HA! I didn't even think of just going to the site and looking up the MSDS.  Wikkid smaht! So how does "pale oil" differ from heating oil, Diesel, Kerosene, Jet fuel? I've never even heard the term "pale oil". | ||
| Buewulf |
Pale oil is an oil that has had the color refined out of it and can range from clear to a light brownish-yellow color. It is a very general term, and there are many different formulations. They are usually naphthenic oils. The purpose of the pale oil in Seafoam would be to keep the viscosity low so it is easy to pour and control the violent combustion of the naptha and alcohol (and also presenting a "clean" looking color). Kerosene, lamp oil or diesel would work fine for this, but pale oils are typically sold as machine oils. Sewing machine oil is probably the most readily availble "true" pale oil. I believe pneumatic tool oil is also a pale oil. | ||
| Hughlysses |
I've read that pale oils tend to taste bitter because they have lots of hops. Stout oils on the other hand have a coffee or chocolaty taste. Oh, wait... (beer snob humor)  | ||
| Blake |
Hugh beat me to it.  | ||
| Ourdee |
Where is the easiest place to buy naphtha? | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
CVS is a good place to buy naptha.  I am seriously going to make some this weekend and feed it to my 1990 Toyota Pickup | ||
| Ourdee |
That was my thought. Except , 02 jeep. | ||
| Buewulf |
If you can't get a hold of pale oil, use diesel. It has a viscosity closer to actual Seafoam than the others. Since the pale oil is also the part of the solution that likely lubricates in Seafoam, #2 diesel should make a good substitute. And don't use alcohol that you purchase at the pharmacy. It contains too much water and your solution won't mix well. 4:2:1 ratios Diesel/Pale Oil:Naptha:Alcohol should be an easy way to get the mixture right. | ||
| Andymnelson |
...or for the once in 10 years year you need it, just buy a can of SeaFoam  | ||
| Buewulf |
...or for the once in 10 years year you need it, just buy a can of SeaFoam There is no fun in that for the weekend mad scientists on this board! That is like telling you to take your bike to the dealer for an oil change.  | ||
| Ulynut |
...or for the once in 10 years year you need it, just buy a can of SeaFoam +1 You might save $2.00 by making your own, but you'll have to run around to find the stuff, take your time to mix it up in the correct ratio, probably make a mess doing it.......etc......etc. In the long run, what did you save? | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Duuuude. It's not about saving money anymore! But you're right. I should just buy some. I have to fix the Toyo to get a sticker hopefully this weekend. | ||
| Johnboy777 |
I always wanted to make my own water - it's just Hydrogen and Oxygen, right? . | ||
| Crusty |
Drink a few beers; you'll make plenty of water. I'm with Andy on this; for all the trouble of gathering the ingredients, you can buy a bottle and have your combustion chambers cleaned before you even started measuring and mixing. | ||
| Ourdee |
Odd, that was what I was starting to think. Then started thinking again. Why do you need to put more alcohol in with the 10% alky/gas? Just ronson and diesel at the pump? It's for my jeep running low octane gas. I'll just get seafoam for the bike! | ||
| Darth_villar |
Careful Johnboy, Di-Hydrogen monoxide kills thousands of people every year. Be careful with those chemicals! | ||
| Skifastbadly |
I've read that pale oils tend to taste bitter because they have lots of hops. Stout oils on the other hand have a coffee or chocolaty taste. Oh, wait... (beer snob humor) ] So stout oils need to be dispensed with nitrogen? | ||
| 7873jake |
Di-hydrogen monoxide is wreaking havoc in some areas of NY and PA. Atmospheric di-hydrogen monoxide is some baaaad stuff!! | ||
| Kenm123t |
over exposure can kill you how ever it does have uses Rocco uses it in fire supression systems cant be good for you |
