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Darrell
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, it's time for me to dive into my primary and replace some bearings that are hopefully the cause of the unusual sounds coming from within.

I've had water infiltration into the primary from my clutch cable that I thought I fixed. I didn't. A new cable is in order.

Anywho, looking at the service manual, it looks like there are just two bearings that may have been effected by this flooding. Can anyone confirm this? The clutch shell needle bearing and the bearing in the adjusting screw assembly look to be the only two that may need to be replaced.

Or, am I screwed and are the bearings in the cases also lubed by the primary fluid with the seals on the inside of the case?

Looks like I'll need some specialty tools, but I have the time, and hopefully the patience to do this.

-darrell
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Darrell- PM Barker. He had to change his a couple of years ago after some deep water fording.

All of the bearings are lubed by the same primary oil, but I think the clutch needle bearings are the ones that seem to suffer first. If you get clean primary oil in there you should be OK.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh man I know what you're talking about.

I had a rumble from my clutch at around 10,000 miles.
Shop replaced the bearings between the inside and outside of the clutch.
They said my tranny fluid came out looking like chocolate milk! They accused me of riding it through rivers and stuff.
Just lots of rain.
I added a cable tie to the top of the clutch cable boot in front of the engine. Seems to work.

I have had no additional adverse effects from that water since then and I am pushing 35,000 miles now.
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Darrell
Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 02:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like I'll order up those two bearings and see if that doesn't do the trick.

Thanks for the info.

-darrell
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Dr_greg
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had to replace the clutch needle bearing on my first '06 at about 30K miles. It was due to short winter commute, and moisture building up.

You need a press to change the bearing, otherwise no problem.

--Doc
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Motoroilmccall
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2012 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can somebody provide the part numbers for those bearings along with any specialty tools required to change it? Or am I better off taking it to a shop if it'll cost me the same for parts and tools as it would for them to change it...
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Snoman
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After getting home from an 11,000 mile Alaska trip in 2010, I dropped the primary fluid and found it very milky. We rode through a LOT of rain, so the majority of those miles could have been with the bad fluid. All seemed fine after the oil change... until the following year. After a couple thousand more miles I began to hear the infamous clutch growl when stopped in gear with the clutch pulled.

I'm now working to replace the needle bearing. Got it apart tonight and sure enough, the bearing was rough and shows signs of rusting. Definitely the problem.



While replacing the bearing, I had planned on also replacing the inner race and thrust washers. While reading the service manual tonight, I came across this statement: "Inspect clutch shell bearing inner race on the back side of the clutch hub for pitting and wear. If the inner race shows any of these signs the complete hub assembly must be replaced." The race visually looks OK (not great), but I'd like to replace it if it's possible. Has anyone replaced this race? I'm thinking of applying a SMALL amount of heat to expand the race, hoping it will slide right off the shaft, but I don't want to damage anything.

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