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99savage
Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

06 Ulysses
On way home today realized had NO Turn Signals
No Port - No Starboard - No Fore - No Aft - No light on the instrument cluster - No steady light - No blinking light - No nuthin

Checked fuses - visually & electrically (2X) = OK
Checked bulbs - all 4, visually & electrically = OK
Took switch cluster on the grip apart
Turn Signal Switch functions mechanically OK
When Switch operated get continuity w/ each set of contacts as would be expected.
(remark: when switch was in the center position had very hi impedance continuity between the contacts which was not expected but @ > 6K ohms doubt that is the problem}

No matter where I check @ the switch, @ the blinker gizmo find no voltage

In times past had problems with the Right Turn Signal (ONLY) a couple of times.
Last time I put about a yard of slack in the Right Turn Signal Wire & protected the whole bundle w/ flexible, protective plastic. - But in those cases the Left Signal worked fine.

Give me a hint as to where I should start digging.

Remark: The signals failed on the way home from some advanced riding training where we were going lock to lock lots & lots of times & probably the wiring bundle did get a good work out.
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Griffmeister
Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ground wire on the steering head. May not look broken but by feel you may find a soft spot where the wire broke internally.
BTW, who put on the riding course?
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99savage
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Griffmeister
Thanks for the hint. Gott'a start someplace. Sure hope to avoid digging into the wiring bundle yet again.

BTW, who put on the riding course?
Legion Riders @ local Legion Post. One of our members is a retired NYS motorcycle trooper & certified police motorcycle instructor. He brought in an active duty trooper & borrowed 100 cones from someplace.
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Mark_weiss
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had the relay go bad.
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Agree, steering head ground wires. Mine did the same a few years back. Looking at the wires was fruitless. I pulled out the headlights to access them and the wire ends fell apart when I touched them.
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Gringo
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

behind the headlight there are about five black wires together, coming from various lights etc, which run down and back, beneath a clamp and back out again to be connected by a torx to the chassis. there is your problem, one of them or more are busted internally. gently pull on each one and the ones that seem to stretch are bad. i replaced all with a braided cable of smaller diameter but more flexible.
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99savage
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gringo,
Finally got around to digging into wire the bundle & problem due my idiocy when fixing a previous problem.

BUT

While everything is out & exposed want to do what you did. - Really hate digging into the bundle & would like to avoid doing it again.
As best possible give us some details - Pictures - Sketches - Written Instructions
How far up did you cut the existing ground wires?
Did you solder or use crimp connectors?
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 2008 broke the ground near the lug on the steering head.
Pop off the front plastic and look for a screwed down cluster of wires (with one broken off)
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99savage
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Know where the ground wires are, Gwd knows I dug into the wiring enough times. - Really hate that task + think removing the shielding makes wires vulnerable to rain

Want to do what Gringo suggested & replace the twisted ground wires w/ a braided cable & maybe avoid digging into the bundle in the future.
Not sure how far back to cut the existing ground wires or if soldering or crimp connectors are to be preferred.
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